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Maine Preppers II

by: Bronco Bill

Fri Nov 02, 2007 at 13:00:05 PM EDT

Continued discussion from Maine Preppers diary.

Diary for preppers in Maine, preppers who want to live in Maine, or even those who just like Maine lobstah and good chowdah!

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WGME 13 @ 11pm- Disaster Ready?
I don't know if PF will be included but...http://www.wgme.com/

As usual, the media is going crazy with the storm coming but this broadcast *may* expand our state's prep message. I can only hope...

Lisa, Hope you and you clan are doing very well. Where are you?

not BF but would def. help in a Pandemic!
I'm not affiliated w/ the program but may participate...

'One Laptop Per Child'

Our mission is to provide a means for learning, self-expression and exploration to the nearly two billion children of the developing world with little or no access to education. While children are by nature eager for knowledge, many countries have insufficient resources to devote to education-sometimes less than $20 a year per child. Imagine the potential that could be unlocked by giving every child in the world the tools they need to learn, no matter who they are, no matter where they live, no matter how little they may have.

If you'd like to donate an XO laptop today, simply click the donation button on the right, above the photo. A donation of $200 will pay for and deliver one XO laptop to a child in a developing nation, $400 will pay for and deliver two XO laptops, and so on.

Starting November 12, One Laptop Per Child will be offering a Give 1 Get 1 Program for a brief window of time in North America. For $399, you will be purchasing two XO laptops-one that will be sent to empower a child to learn in a developing nation, and one that will be sent to your child at home. If you're interested in Give 1 Get 1, we'll be happy to send you a reminder email. Just sign up in the box to the left and you'll receive your reminder prior to the November 12 launch date.


Nicholas Negroponte
Founder and Chairman of One Laptop Per Child

(and younger brother of John Negroponte[imo, too bad..]link-http://en.wikipedia....)

pull-cord generator to power it...
Lisa, Tom, etc.- For a holiday gift,could be a great gift(high-end with the laptop) to be given to a child in a developing country in your {progressive} friend's name. Again, I'm not affiliated...

Not that our finances aren't already maxed out from prepping. ;-0
Hope ya'll are doing well!


Potenco's Pull-Cord Generator (PCG) keeps portable electronic devices working all the time while providing freedom and independence from traditional power sources.

Simply hold the PCG in the palm of one hand, pull the cord with the other hand, and generate instant energy. The PCG safely powers rechargeable batteries and provides energy for a variety of critical electronics such as lighting, cell phones, radios, GPS, PDAs, and water purifiers.

The first application of the PCG will power the XO Laptop available from the One Laptop per Child Project (OLPC).

[ Parent ]
Sport Solar Oven/ WaterBOB/ Kelly Kettle...
again, not affiliated but have purchased all three. They arrived in excellent shape and work well.

more gift ideas for your family, a prepping friend, or as a donation to a developing country in your 'giftee's' name.

It's easy to make a solar oven but to send it, not so.


"Designed by solar engineers to be used in sun rich but fuel poor areas in the world to improve the quality of life and nutrition of some of the 2.4 billion people who lack adequate cooking fuel, the Sport is also captivating U.S. consumers. Constructed of post-consumer recycled plastic pop bottles, aluminum and state of the art insulation, it is efficient, environmentally friendly, cost effective and fun to use.

Retailing at $149.94 (incls. $24.97 shipping) , The Sport is shipped as a complete, ready to cook kit with two cooking pots, a thermometer, instruction book with recipes and a WAPI (Water Pasteurization Indictor). You supply the food and sunshine!"

or a 'WaterBOB'


'The waterBOB? is a water containment system that holds up to 100 gallons of fresh drinking water in any standard bathtub in the event of an emergency. Constructed of heavy duty food grade plastic, the waterBOB? keeps water fresh and clean for drinking, cooking, washing and flushing. Water stored in an open bathtub, with dirt, soap film and exposure to debris will spoil and become useless.'

$24.95 + free shipping


or a 'Kelly Kettle' from Ireland

2.5 pint(~$75) or 1 pint(~$68)

from the site:
# Simple and easy to use.
# Boils up to 2.5 pints of water in 3-5 minutes.
# No running costs.
# No open fire: the fire is contained within the kettle itself.
# Extremely efficient boiler that works in all weather conditions.
# Compact, durable and lightweight and can be operated with virtually any fuel: sticks, dry grass, heather, birch bark, pine cones, even dry camel dung!
# Lasts a lifetime.
# Available in 2.5 Pint & 1 Pint versions.
# The ultimate survivalists' tool.
# Suitable for humanitarian aid.

Note- can be purchased in the States.

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'One Laptop per Child' on NewsHour tonight. n/t

[ Parent ]
Bowdoin C., 4x more pneumonia(bac.) than usual...
(apparently, more info will be on WCSH & WMTW at 11pm. Hope it doesn't get worse, poor kids!)

Bowdoin College Dealing With An Outbreak Of Pneumonia

BRUNSWICK (AP/NEWS CENTER) -- Bowdoin College is grappling with an outbreak of atypical pneumonia on the Brunswick campus. There have been 32 cases since mid-September, four times more than usual.


But this year, dozens of students have been affected, and Hood says 12 students were "acutely ill" as of Wednesday.


Dr. Dora Anne Mills, the state's health chief, says the bug has been identified as Mycoplasma pneumoniae. It's dubbed "atypical" because the organism can be difficult to recognize in a lab test and needs different medications.

Stephen King, Nightline, tonight(11/16/07)
Our golden (Maine)boy...I can't believe that he's not aware of PF. This is just a heads up in case he broaches the topic. 'The Stand' proves that he can imagine teotwawki and his absolutely generous activities(in ME.) proves that he cares about the 'common person'. I did write to him last year re. H5N1, but on his website. Never did check back to see if he responded.

from Nightline- http://abcnews.go.co...

{Plus he's very politically savvy. LOL Good good Man!}

Still alive and kicking!
Has been a while since my last posting, partly due to ongoing family responsibilities, partly to trying to overcome intertia.  After going along at full speed for two years on prepping, have hit the wall for a while.  Just trying to consolidate what we have done, sort through our of date food storage items.  Freeze dried/dehydrated are easy, as they store forever.  MREs are also things I will not worry about for years, but others such as canned goods need rotation.
My vacation in Harpswell for two weeks in August was wonderful, but reality again intrudes.  Spent Thanksgiving in CT, did not see Dem from CT in my travels!
Have been in touch with bird-dog, hope that the rest of my Maine friends are well.   Have not seen too many of you posting, imagine that like myself you are lurking more, commenting less.   Seems as if H5N1 is spreading to more and more countries, at least in the bird population, while humans are still dying in Indonesia.   My fervent hope is that possibly some are right, that maybe, just maybe, H5 will not be the ONE.
Hello to Lisa, AL, and all.  Hope the winter will not be a bad one Downeast, no ice storms or serious snow.  My woodstove is ready, month or so worth of wood, still adding to my list of last minute things to get when and if TSHTF.
DW and me wish all of you a joyous Holiday Season.  NM

Experience has taught me that there are few conspiracies, but much incompetence

did not see Dem from CT in my travels!

Are you sure?  ;-)

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Hi NauticalMan!
"Hope the winter will not be a bad one Downeast, no ice storms or serious snow."

Had a good'n yesterday and it's still snowing! Looks to be ~ 8-12".

I bought a manual woodstove fan and it really seems have to worked well for this storm. You & DW might consider getting one   So glad that you have that stove! b-d

...oh & excitedly waiting for my OLPC laptop! I'll keep you posted.

[ Parent ]
join Canada
when severe panflu erupts  

ask experts for their subjective
panflu death expectation values
and report the replies

Ask me after the election, gs, ie. if PF doesn't come 1st
LOL! I think I'll stay, thankyouverymuchanyway...

Hope [& prepping/work/politics] Abides

Hope abides; therefore I abide.
Countless frustrations have not cowed me.
I am still alive, vibrant with life.
The black cloud will disappear,
The morning sun will appear once again
In all its supernal glory.

- Sri Chinmoy

Hope [&preparation] is the Thing with Feathers

By: Emily Dickinson

"Hope" is the thing with feathers
That perches in the soul
And sings the tune without the words
And never stops at all,

And sweetest in the gale is heard;
And sore must be the storm
That could abash the little bird
That kept so many warm.

I've heard it in the chillest land
And on the strangest sea,
Yet never, in extremity,
It asked a crumb of me.


[ Parent ]
not BF but... more mumps in ME.
LisainSouthernMaine and others with children-

communicated by:
ProMED-mail rapporteur Brent Barrett

"[There has been a considerable increase in the number of mumps cases
reported in Maine since the initial report on 20 Nov 2007. The case count
of 7 confirmed and 24 suspected cases of mumps has risen to at least 75
confirmed cases. It may be that as time progresses the State of Maine will
be required to instigate a comprehensive vaccination campaign to provide
protective immunity to those in the population who have previously received
a single vaccinations or none, to contain this outbreak - Mod.CP]"

Also... the Solstice is soon here. Best wishes for the turning of the day and night. We've made it through another year w/o severe heartbreak in Maine and... added time to get out "stuff" together. Hope you all are well and thriving! Much to be grateful for... and to keep a candle burning.  

Mumps virus spreading!
{has increased from 7 confirmed/ 24 suspected(Dec.21) to 15 confirmed/ 57 suspected!}

Spread of Mumps Is Feared After Maine Reports Cases

Published: December 25, 2007

BOSTON - State health officials across New England are on alert after dozens of cases of mumps have been confirmed or suspected in Maine.


The New Hampshire Department of Health sent out an emergency message to health care providers, asking them to report suspected cases and to encourage mumps vaccinations, said Dr. Jose Montero, the state epidemiologist.

"Borders do not exist for infectious disease," Dr. Montero said. "People go places here, they leave New Hampshire to work in Maine or get health care in Massachusetts. This is quite a dynamic region, which is why we certainly need to keep a high level of alert and open eyes."

Three suspected cases in New Hampshire turned out to be other viruses.

No cases have been reported in Vermont, where officials are alerting health care providers to the Maine outbreak, said Dr. Cort Lohff, the state epidemiologist.

much more... http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12...


and on a brighter note... What a beautiful, sunny and warm Christmas Day! Our ice has almost melted, MPR has been wonderful, and I received my little green gem of a laptop(XO-OLPC) yesterday. The cat, the dog, the bird and I wish you'all a very peaceful and happy day.  

[ Parent ]
checking in
Hi Birddog!  How are you?  We are fine down here - buried in snow but it is beautiful!  Still prepping - have been readying physical environ of the house, did get older son pneumovax last month, car repairs/new tires,exhaust check etc...
Need to buff up a few food supplies - but we'd be OK if tshtf tomorrow...which looks quite possible when Egypt is active like this.  I hope you are well.  Hello to everyone!

Hi Lisa!
I've missed you! Glad that you and your dear ones are well.

The snow is unbelievably heavy but this was the most beautiful one yet.

We're all doing ok re, supplies except Molly needs more kibble, Fiona more granola, kitty more recyc. k. litter and I, a root canal(& maybe a better way to defend myself from the murderous/starving hoards- yup, still procrastinating)... before tshtf. Right, it does not look good. Takes my breath away. We're pretty well set though.

My sister is in Nepal for the year and my niece in Mayo leaves for India for 4-6 months any day now. Oh well...

There's a major freeze starting tonight so I have to dash out & finish my shoveling before I go to work.

It's so great to see you here!!!!! Sally

[ Parent ]
Wed. Jan. 16- local PF Discussion
'hoping there's a good turnout!

"The Great Influenza Pandemic of 1918: It's Effect on World History and Lessons for Today"

Curtis Memorial Library,
presented by Richard Nieman, M.D.

wish I could go...will be working

An e-mail to my niece in India....
She's there for four months on her own, had plans to travel to the east and is an archaeologist from W. Ireland. My sister/her aunt, is living in Nepal and will not discuss this with me.(shrug) I've given my niece much info in the past but the closer she came to going and the joy/passion she showed in the build-up caused me to back off 95% as not to discourage/frighten her. She was going to go no matter what. A life-long dream. ;-)

Hopefully she'll respond...
She's mostly a vegetarian as is my sister so I'm not extremely 'loosing it' but...

this is what I wrote...

PLEASE--- continue to be vegan or vegetarian & wash wash wash your hands & use your sanitizer. This is very bad for those in the eastern areas of India. Very sad. So far there aren't any reports of human infection but I'm afraid that it won't be long before there are. It moves fast. Adrienne, please take care. It can spread very quickly....

SORRY, but I am concerned. I won't mention it to your mom as there isn't any point for her to worry. Don't touch your face, stay away from markets that sell poultry/pigs, don't touch any dead birds/critters!!!!, be aware that this can be passed along by most mammals. Yadda yadda yadda. I'm sure that you know this.

check ---  http://www.newfluwiki2.com/   --- when you can for more info! I'm known as 'bird-dog' so it would be great if you could post in the news or 'Maine Preppers II' what you are hearing/sensing re. H5N1(avian influenza) in India. Thanks. Fiona says 'hehloo'. We're all 'ok'. ;-)
call me collect!!! if you have any questions or need anything, really anything. I love you & I'm sure that you'll be fine and will have a fantastically wonderful trip. Just be VERY aware that this is spreading in India.

for instance...

India battles 'alarming' bird flu outbreak - Yahoo! News



and her reply!
Hellooooo! Am still in Goa but heading inland to Hampi tomorrow. To be honest, this place does seem to be a time bomb where bird flu is concerned! I do my best to keep clean though although at the moment I have a cough! (a guy was hacking away on the overnight train from Mumbai, guess i must have picked it up then! though I am fine really, it should pass soon).
Dont worry! it will be ok. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, I will write with a longer update soon now that i have adjusted a bit.xxx, love you!

Gee, I wish that I felt reassured right now....


[ Parent ]
Has anyone seen a recent post or gotten an email from bird-dog?
Lisa or any of you good Maine folks heard from her?  Have emailed her but no response.. DW and I are worried...

Experience has taught me that there are few conspiracies, but much incompetence

bird-dog is OK!!
Emailed me today.  Thanks Dem...

Experience has taught me that there are few conspiracies, but much incompetence

[ Parent ]


Just wondering, I'm a bit homesick for my adopted homeland.

"The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. Never say can't. Never give up. Never surrender."

No posts here on the Maine Diary since May?!
Thought I would drop a few lines to see who is still out there.   Like most, I have been lurking and life is full of other things to take up our time..

DW and I spent our last two weeks in August at the rented cottage in Harpswell, weather cleared the day we went, and we had two glorious weeks of perfect New England weather.  The lobsters, steamers, and other seafood delicacies were much appreciated and enjoyed.

We met with bird-dog, not to mention Fiona, Molly, and Darnelle and all the other wildlife in and around their home.  Bird-dog is delightful, and we had a nice day, spending a couple of hours down to Five Islands.  DW was surprised that there was almost no talk of Pandemic, prepping and the like!  Think it is because most of us have said it all and we are probably suffering from burnout at this point.

Lisa, sorry to hear about your Lilly, hope the rest of your family is doing well.   Miss hearing from all of you here on the wiki...

Awfully quiet on the H5N1 front.  My biggest worry is that it will start in Indonesia and we will never know until too late due to Supari, expletives deleted.......  Of course China is always a worry, due to their propensity to hide bad news, (see latest dairy/melamine fiasco)

Just got back from a wedding in Cleveland the other weekend, highly recommend the R&R Hall of Fame!

be well all

Experience has taught me that there are few conspiracies, but much incompetence

Hi NauticalMan! ***thanks***...
...meeting you and your DW was the highlight of my summer! Such a perfect Maine day was spent with you two.
And hey, you did see the tip of my stash ice-berg!
Next time we'll have to drag out the solar cook'er and watch it do it's stuff?

I'm still in a prepping state of mind whenever I go to the store, especially considering the global economy, but I'm a bit (no, totally) obsessed with the election. You know, stuffing envelops, chatting up folks on the street, reading, reading, reading (esp. DK). I do check in here daily though.

Thank goodness for being prepared for a pandemic, a hurricane, or a failing economy.
And it's all thanks to the fluwiki!

We did just miss the hurricane on Sunday, but... I was ready! ;-)

And a warm 'greetings' to Lisa and our other Maine preppers!

[ Parent ]
Old Maine Friends
Last comments here date back to September.  Other than bird-dog have not heard or seen any of you good folks posting.  Hope all are well.  DW and I are in middle of construction here at home and could not be a worse time I guess.  Also elderly relative taking up a lot of our time right now.  Spent six hours with her in an emergency room the other night.  Can't think of anyplace I would rather not be.  No one wearing masks, including any of the staff.  

Dug into some of our preps the other day, and much of the canned goods are close or past the expiration dates, as is much of my over the counter meds, although prescription stuff has been rotated faithfully.  Worried about our small stash of Tamiflu.  Expiration date coming up middle of next year.  Have never seen anything about it still being effective after the date.  

IMHO, think we may dodge the bullet this time with the swine variation, absent a possible second wave as in 1918.
Of course all bets are off if this gets to someplace like Indonesia and reassorts or recombines as Dr. Niman would say, with H5N1.

I see almost nobody prepping.  Sent out BBs alert, two or three folks did answer asking for more info, about what I got a couple of years back.  On the one hand, maybe this event will make people take a pandemic possibility seriously, but on the other, if this fizzles out and becomes a pandemic that is not deadly to more than just a few, it may be that the next time it happens, say with H5N1, that they will totally disregard it!

Our best to all of you.

Experience has taught me that there are few conspiracies, but much incompetence

Info & suggestions for ME businesses
I know that these are old statistics for many of us but ...

I'm posting this again because I just can hardly believe how forthright their senario is. It's the message from the govt but to have it in our local paper, especially with the Bath Iron Works, Maines'  largest employer,
headquarted in town.

This article seemed to mentally shut down my employer. We provide care/services to allow very frail elderly and folks with disabilities, the freedom to stay in their homes. Imagine the impact of sick workers. And my employer has never even had a flu shot though the business has off and on offered it to employees.  

Maine is also having an upsurge of flu cases right now unlike the rest of the Country.

(links following...)

Times Record

BATH - Imagine that 10 percent of your employees are too sick to come to work on any given day. Imagine that cumulatively, 40 percent of your work force could be absent for as many as three to four months. Imagine that the other businesses you rely on are facing the same massive absentee rates.

(The H1N1 Community Partners in Flu Preparedness task force submitted the following information on what its members believe businesses should know about pandemic flu planning.)

Hard as it may be to believe, such a scenario could happen - indeed, some health officials say it's inevitable. The cause: a pandemic flu.


Bad as that is, health experts are now warning about a far more lethal kind of flu - a pandemic flu that could kill more than half a million in the U.S., hospitalize more than 2 million and cost our economy a staggering $160 billion to $675 billion.

(more, with steps for business prep)

Upsurge in Alaska and Maine...

u activity in the Southern Hemisphere, which soared in June at the beginning of its winter, has begun to wane. In most of the United States, flu activity is "sporadic," though it is widespread in Alaska and Maine; the reasons for this disparity are unknown, other than for Dr. Butler's speculation that since swine flu arrived late in Alaska, it may still be peaking.

from the NYT's article yesterday by Donald McNeil

link follows...

[ Parent ]

I haven't seen any discussion yet from Maine papers re. this upsurge.

[ Parent ]
2nd Annual Maine Partners in Emergency Preparedness Conference
Hi Folks,

I am writing to notify you all about the upcoming Maine Partners in Emergency Preparedness Conference that will be held in Augusta at the Civic Center,  Thursday April 29, and Friday April 30, 2010.    Register at:  http://www.maine.gov/tools/wha...

This is the big kahuna of all meetings of people and organizations involved in planning for and responding to all manner of emergency situations that might come up - so, first responders (emt's, fire fighters, police, etc.), second responders like Acupuncturists Without Borders - offering help to first responders and the public affected by a disaster situation, plus civic planners, government officials, etc.

I went to this last year - it had an emphasis on flu - and it was excellent.  Great place to find out what is going on in the state, and make contact with those who are doing it.  

I'm going to be setting up a booth touting the role of acupuncture services in disaster settings.  Come on by and get needled - or at least persuaded!

Hope to see some of you there,


PS My prepping has been such an asset, since that last storm.  Two days now without power, and no relief in sight.  But, it's not much more than a minor inconvenience, given all the preps: back up heat, lights to cook and read by, plenty of food.... not bad at all!

Anyone still reading down East!
Has been a long time since anyone has posted here on the Maine forum.  Know I miss many of you.  Hope all are well, including birddog and Ms. Fiona, the wonder Parrot...

DW and I are well, with all of our loved ones having escaped H1N1.   Was particularly worried about our little grandson, given the propensity to be serious in the young.
We did manage to spend 4 days in Harpswell in Sept., unable to rent our usual 1-2 weeks due to other things in our lives, but managed to squeeze in a lot of visiting and a lot of lobster population control.  Did my best at home on lobster consumption this Summer to try and help the lobstermen as knew prices were very low for them.

Gone are all my canned goods etc., as they had all gone seriously out of date.  Good intentions to rotate them went the way of many other intentions I guess.  Hopefully the cases of MRIs will be good for another five years or so, and the dried stuff forever, or at least as long as this older prepper will be able to make need of them.. Just attended my 50th HS reunion! I see that the shelf life of Tamiflu has been extended another two years, but by then it may not be effective .

Would like to see some of you posting again.

take care of your good selves


Experience has taught me that there are few conspiracies, but much incompetence

New mutation of H5N1 is being reported
DW and I back from our annual two weeks in Harpswell.  Weather, lobster, friends, all well.

Bird dog, if you are reading this, did make it to Five Islands, walked on the beach at Reid, and someone new had taken over Gray Havens, already renovating all the baths.  Good news for the old dowager hotel!  We spent part of our honeymoon there in 1998.  Anyone out there Downeast!?  Hope all are well

Experience has taught me that there are few conspiracies, but much incompetence

Old Maine Friends
Hello to all of you from myself and DW.   All is well here, another grandson arrived last month.  Not sure what kind of a world he will grow up in though.

We will be down Maine for two weeks this Summer, God willing as my grandmother was wont to say..

Hope all are well with you good folks, bird-dog, Lisa and the rest.   Would like to see someone post again.  Sad to see family and friends falling by the wayside as we age.  Someone cheer me up!

Experience has taught me that there are few conspiracies, but much incompetence

Hi Nautical Man! Great to see you back.
It gets pretty gloomy, doesn't it at times? Just remember to keep life close to your heart and enjoy your life and that of family and friends. We must maintain a balance so that we don't get overwhelmed with everthing. What I have found Nautical Man, is that being proactive helps chase away the gloominess. I can't stop a pandemic or climate change, but I can find ways to be proactive, even if it's just small things.

Take heart that your not alone. :-)
Hope to see you around more.


United we stand: Divided we fall

[ Parent ]
Being proactive
Thanks Cottontop for the words of encouragement.   You are right, because as you say, not much we can do about the big issues on our level.   Seems as if ignorance is becoming the norm and the discourse is as about as low as it can be.  Will try to find solace with the good things and people in my life as you say.   Thanks for posting and your response.   Be well

Experience has taught me that there are few conspiracies, but much incompetence

Happy days and good news!
Wonderful two weeks on the ocean in Maine.   According to the neighbors, best two weeks of the Summer!  Lobsters are inexpensive, good news for consumer, not as good for the lobstermen though.  In fact, going back up for a big lobster feed at a good friends in a couple of weeks.
Great news, at least for our mouse friends at this point, but a new vaccine given both before and after infection is cured or prevented in 100% of the target mice!  Pray for this one.   DW and I send our best to Maine friends, and out of Maine for Cottontop!

Experience has taught me that there are few conspiracies, but much incompetence

Down Maine friends
Like to know that someone is still looking here on occasion.  Bird Dog, Lisa, anyone?

Experience has taught me that there are few conspiracies, but much incompetence

Still Here
BB, you are as reliable as the return of influenza each year, but much more welcome and appreciated!  Best to you and my Maine friends for the Holiday.  We hope to make it up in January or Feb. for a meal with Harpswell friends at Richards German restaurant in Brunswick.

Experience has taught me that there are few conspiracies, but much incompetence

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