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Results of Flu Wiki Survey

by: DemFromCT

Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 18:17:25 PM EST


Note to the community: this voluntary external survey is being conducted by the TNO Research  Institute (in the Netherlands) and the Danish Technological Institute (DTI)

The results were sent to me today (below the fold)

DemFromCT :: Results of Flu Wiki Survey
Survey report Fluwiki

General
The survey was open from 13 November 2008 to 9 December 2008. In total, 103 respondents started survey, of which 78 (75.7%) finished the survey. Next we will describe the data for every survey question.

Example graph

The graph most used in this survey report is the top 5 bar chart. It visualizes the 5 predefined answer options that respondents found most important. The Other category on the right side of the graph represents the cumulative total of all other predefined answer options, which have a lower ranking.

Profile

Figure 1: Age distribution (n=99)

Figure 1 gives an overview of Fluwiki's age distribution. A vast majority (85.8%) is 40 years or older and nearly one third is 55 years or older.

Figure 2: Gender distribution (n=101)

As illustrated by figure 2, most visitors of fluwiki are female (64.4%).

Figure 3 Distribution of educational levels (n=102)

Fluwiki visitors are fairly high educated. The majority (71.6%) holds an academic degree.

Figure 4: Nationality distribution (n=98)

Fluwiki is an American website, which is represented in the nationality of the visitors: 81.6% of the visitors come from the USA, followed by United Kingdom (6.1%) and Canada (3.1%).

Figure 5: Top 5 primary areas of employment (n=93)

As shown in Figure 5, most visitors are working in the Health care and Social assistance sector (20.4%), Government and Public administration sector (10.8%) and Primary / Secondary education sector (8.6%). In addition, 16.1% of the visitors are retired.

Internet experience

Figure 6: Years of internet experience (n=102)

Most visitors are very familiar with internet: 64.7% has more than 10 years of experience.

Time spent on website

Figure 7: Distribution of the time spent on Fluwiki (n=93)

Figure 7 shows the distribution of the time spent on the website. The largest group are visitors who spent an hour or less (31.1%). However, a considerable minority (35.9%) spends more than 4 hours and almost 5% spends even 20 or more hours a week.

Online Activities

Figure 8: Distribution of online activities (n=92)

What are Fluwiki's visitors most favourite online activities? According to figure 8, most visitors are reading (33.9%), searching (20.0%) and collecting (16.4%). Only a small share is actually creating content (6.5%).

Most favourite topics

Figure 9: Distribution of the top 5 topics discussed on Fluwiki (n=89)

Knowledge on influenza pandemic is the most important topic (44.3%), followed by best practices (13.4%) and personal experiences (8.1%). Private information, regular chit-chat, is one of the least favourite topics (0.8%)

Benefits

Figure 10: Distribution of the most important benefits (n=89)

Access to specialists on influenza pandemic (15.4%) and the acquisition of specific knowledge, e.g. from the wiki, (33.7%) are the most important benefits attributed to Fluwiki.  Social benefits, like Cross-cultural experience, Expanding my network, the acquisition of New friends and entertainment are of minor importance: together they count for only 5% of the most important benefits to join Fluwiki.

Drawbacks

Figure 11: Distribution of perceived drawbacks (n=66)

The drawbacks visitors have are quite diverse, indicating by the small differences in share between the options. Domination of few peers / opinions (17.2%), limited reliability of information (15.4%) and risk of privacy infringements/ open access to my personal information (13.7%) are considered as the most important drawbacks.

Impacts

Figure 12: Distribution of the top 10 impacts (n=66)

The most important impact of Fluwiki is that users introduce or develop new policies regarding influenza pandemic (15.7%) and the information available saves visitors time (13.7%).  

Values

Figure 13: Top 10 values associated with fluwiki (n=84)

Figure 14: Top 5 values least associated with fluwiki (n=84)

Figure 13 and 14 show the most and the least associated values, attributed to Fluwiki. Fluwiki is especially characterized by "Community sense" (17.8%), Expertise (14.7%) and Professionalism (9.1%). Social values, like Empathy, Cohesiveness and Acceptation and formality are least associated with Fluwiki.

Most favourite functionalities

Figure 15: Distribution of the most favourite functionalities of Fluwiki (n=84)

More than 75% of the visitors favour Fluwiki's Forum (52.9%) and wiki (24.6%).

Feedback

37 respondents filled out the open question what they would like to see in a next version of Fluwiki's website. The top 3 points of improvement are:
1. User interface: easy access and navigation
2. Ability to edit / comment
3. More effective search engine

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Interesting
Dem,

 Knowledge and the ability to get corrections is the best thing about FW other than the people. I love the news but I can get the news on my own.

 Domination by a few suprised me.

 I'm not sure how to identify and fix it.

Kobie


I wouldn't worry about it
when 'other' is your biggest drawback and the other choices are evenly spit, it tells you there's no one dominant issue.

[ Parent ]
Small things grow worse
DemFromCT,

 17% bothers me because it is the little things that get on a person's nerves and then get blown out of proportion.

 It is a problem I do not feel on the board. It took me by suprise.

 While on most blogs people come and go - quite frankly you all the folks I'm gonna spend the pandemic with. Well not in your homes but of those working on the problem I know you all see the problem from multiple angles.

 "Its harder to defete a man defending his home than one that is mearly paid to fight" or words to that effect. Dem we are not just paid to do this - we pay with time, effort and ocassionaly social standing, to do this.

 I'm hoping all are welcome for we have too few to loose even one.

Regards,
Kobie


[ Parent ]
P.S. - odd there site is not popular with 20 year olds.
Dem,

 Might be the 20 something crowed skipped the survey or that wiki's are "20th century" vs face book or twitter.

Kobie


[ Parent ]
Worrying about disease and infrastructure isn't normally a 20 y/old sort of thing. n/t


[ Parent ]
Peace coprs
UK-Bird,

 Sometimes 20 year olds pick it up as their concern.

 How to make it more of a concern - like recycling and global warming?

 Thre is so much they can do. 20 year olds are dead center of the H5N1 motality cicle.

kobie  


[ Parent ]
It's all a matter of perception
That which surprised you didn't surprise me . . .  ;)

Very prolific posters would be perceived to be dominating, whether that's their intention or not.

At least, that's how I see it - back to 'perception'.


[ Parent ]
Clawdia - between the two of us we see both sides of the coin and, I hope, most of the picture. ;-)
Clawdia,

 I hope prolific posters do not put people off.

 Everyone has something to offer.

 "I have such vision for I stand on the shoulders of giants" - Thomas Alva Eddison

 "The stone they cast away that seemed so unimportant was the critical piece"

 OTOH - the most important person can be the butt hole. As all the body parts argued who was most important they butt hole spoke up and was told to shut up. So it did. After a few days the brain grew foggy, the eyes grew cross, the knees grew week and they relized they where of sh*t.  :-) ha ha ha ha

Kobie


[ Parent ]
Perception again . . .
I didn't see anything as making a point about who or what might be more important.

I don't think it's how prolific a poster might be that would be off-putting, but rather it might have more to do with what the prolific poster was saying, or how they were saying it.


[ Parent ]
how, yes
definitely.

It is what it is in terms of perception; I just think it would matter a great deal more it if were, say, 45%. These are small numbers and should be taken in context.


[ Parent ]
and part of that context is
that people come here for info.

[ Parent ]
Interesting - let me think on it.
Clawdia - interesting.

  Even though a prolific writer does not cut anyone off they can dominate a web page.

  Does it make others feel like they should be posting as much?

  Does it make others feel like their posts get buried under other posts or ignored.

  Honestly - who does not like to come here and find replies to what they post. Affermation of value.

Interesting.

Kobie


[ Parent ]
Kobie--you could be considered one of the dominant ones...
You post quite a few news items, you're a prolific writer here on the forum, and everybody knows you. You don't put anyone off and have quite a bit to offer.  
I, on the other hand, don't post nearly as often, and don't consider myself dominant here at all, though most folks also know who I am.

Oh, and bad joke! ;-)


[ Parent ]
Dominance - for fun and prophet :-)
Bronco Bill,

 Hi. Thank you.

 With no faces to look at its hard to tell others reactions it was nice to hear.

 Dominance is like gambling: Its a problem only if you are not making a profit or cutting other people off ;-) Gambling is not a problem for those making 220+k a year.

 BTW - just having words on paper, er web page, is great. To help and work by words alone means lets me know my words alone work. Long story on that one ;-)

 Why did I write prophet? IMO when all this is over post pandemic our words will read as prophetic even though the handwriting was on the wall for all to see. FluWikians only wrote what they knew for the benefit of others.

 Back to work.

  Onward and upward.

Kobie

   


[ Parent ]
I filled out this survey
and I found the choices given not really pertinent to the experience here. I found myself just picking a random answer that was as close as I could get. Though the survey was interesting I don't know that I would put a lot of store in the results.

Life is not so short but that there is always time enough for courtesy. Ralph Waldo Emerson

demograhics, sure
the rest, take it with a grain of salt.

[ Parent ]
Domination is a strong word
I thought I posted something earlier, but it seems to have disappeared into cyber space!
Obviously the same names crop up regularly, you posters know who you are, regulars. That might make you appear dominant,and the survey wasn't worded so well as to answer that. Then there are visitors. Some of us take more of a back seat. I am ALWAYS here! Just not so vocal. What we all have in common is following H5N1/pandemic.
Perhaps slightly more women post because ( this is going to sound stereotypical,cringe) more of us are at home and have time to browse. And the 20 somethings are too busy out there living, rather than worrying about dying.
Just out of interest is there a record of how many people 'belong' to Fluwiki? Out of regular users who actually log on and then others who drop in (though could an unregistered user browse 5 times a day and be counted as 5 different people visiting?)
I visit 2 other sites regularly one is UK based (only took me 3 years to find!), both of which seem to have had a marked number of new names registering.

Tammy, hi
  Your answer is sterotypical but not a put down.

 Women also communicate more - stereotypical? Perhaps but not a put down. Why wait till things go bad, why not ask beforehand "What would you do?"

 I'm glad you asked about teh 18-25 year olds. IMO it is advertising. H5N1 is in the news but not really on the Yaoo or MSN home page.

 H5N1 is brought up in college. There is a twitter for H5N1 and there should be a face book.

 Tammy if all you do is read, learn and do that will make me happy. Well ocassionaly pass along some information.

  "Search - discover - share"

KObie
Domination with a smile and an ear, not just another pretty face. ;-) LoL ha ha ha


[ Parent ]
Kobie,
  Oh I pass on the messages, but not many listen. I have become more subtle in my approach, more often dropping hints about survivalism including pandemic and what if scenarios, rather than H5N1 is going to be the downfall of mankind. I reiterate often that I will always have food, water and supplies in place in case of flood, snow (and we currently have LOTS!) and in case of pandemic.  
I wholeheartedly agree about advertising.I wonder how many 18-25 year olds are reading regularly in press or magazines about illness or disease,drugs,alcohol abuse,rape, assault, knife crime, perhaps breast awareness, testicular cancer etc. I don't think H5N1 rates very highly in their lives,because it is not something they have to deal with on a daily basis NOW!  

[ Parent ]
Tammy keep posting
Tammy,

 Its hard to know if anyone is listening. DemFromCT has written how he stopped sening stuff out only to have people write back "where is the pandemic news??"

 You may be more right than me. They do not have to deal with it now. Classes, pay, pregnancy, who is seeing who, date rape, etc.

 If the kis want X-Tream sport or "survivor man" than lock nine of them in a house for three months - no TV, no internet, no going outside and watch reality set in. Life during the first wave of a pandemic.

 Sigh - Shakespear said it best with "Life is more valuable at the end when you know what should have been, than at the beginning when all things seemed possible"  18-25 year olds may be caught up in their groups not knowing to prep.

 That scares me because they are most at risk. They may want to cull birds (rural areas) or work with the sick in a flu ward (city areas). They are old enough to help but may be too young to be vigilant against germs for hours and days.

 Tammy - do you have any ideas how to reach them? MTV? Commercials? Songs?  Even if a wiki can not reach them, how does one reach them?

 Thanks for posting. Hope you feel comfertable here. I'm interested in your thoughts.

Kobie


[ Parent ]
I wish I knew the answer
Involving teenagers in survivalism is probably the way to go. It would be interesting to know whether day camps, week camps, summer camps, scouts ,brownies, wilderness, CCF (army cadet training) etc could become actively involved. I guess this would mean approaching those organizations and putting it to them that making rafts, knot tying, putting up tents, tree climbing, outdoor pursuits can have a REAL impact on REAL lives.Including survivalism in general. 'What if?' scenarios, including Pandemic Flu. If they are warned how much of a threat it COULD be. Ask them 'What would you do?' Put them into small teams. Then ask them what they would do if they were alone. I feel those are the type of people to reach out to. Involve basic first aid training, even a young child can know to put pressure on a bleeding wound using clean dish cloth/tea towel. Or not to remove a helmet in case of ski, horseriding, mountaineering, motorbike accident. WASH THEIR HANDS!!! Pandemic Flu is only a small part of the equation here really. It is SURVIVING afterwards.
Kids/teens might love to know how to sterilize water,where to find food, how to light a fire.
Maybe there should be a survivalism magazine out there.
Are there computer games out there?
Is there a board game?
History lessons in the classroom - IN EVERY CLASSROOM AND HISTORY UNIVERSITY COURSE IN EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD go over the War, go over the effects of the 1918 Flu and tell them this next one COULD be as bad!

(THAT WOULD BE A RESULT!)

I also think it would do no harm for any hospital based TV program/series to incorporate a very severe flu scenario and have the doctors and nurses quoting how would they cope in a real Pandemic. We have at least 3 such programmes 'Doctors' (lunchtime viewing) and 'Casualty' and 'Holby City' both hospital accident and emergency drama (evening BTW although I watched the TV Survivors series it wasn't really what I had in mind. I think the urgency in the hospitals, panic and the realistic portrayal of death wasn't there.
My son recently went on a mountaineering trip with the school. He does lots of outdoor pursuits when he is not on the computer! There are some kids out there who could be reached - they are not all sit-at-home computer and TV junkies.
So who is going to approach these companies and organizations?

Phew! I have never gotten so intense before. :-)


[ Parent ]
Fun with a purpose
Tammy,

 For someone who did not post you have some great ideas.

 It is fun with a purpose. Yes there are day camps for scouts and survivalism in the wild. How to build a bed and shelter out of leaves and sticks that really works. How to build a fire and make clean water.

 Science project of making a solar oven or even a box oven. How to make a crystal radio.

 Covering 1918 the same way 1860-1864 is covered. It was rough, thousands died but we got through it. People get turned off with "Its a pandemic, nothing can be done, millions will die, TEOTWAKI and then they shut down."  Instead offer answers of what to do.

 Tammy, they do not have to be scared to learn. They have to be interested. They have to feel like they are learning what you are doing. "My mom cooks, I will learn. My dad fixes the car, I will learn. I want to be just like them." - kids are simple.

 What is rough is the setting. Always have several adults around so the kids are safe.

 Have a weekly activity. On Twitter I just posted a weekend project - get a flash light. Get a flash light, batteries, spare bulb. Replace the batteries. Replace the bulb. Carry the flashlight so you are the person that has one when one is needed.

 Do one acitivity a weekend and you have 4 projects done each month or 48 projects a year.

 Yes I agree with you. Private schools, YMCA, scouts, youth groups, churches, etc could do this. Public schools - ehh. It becomes a security issue.

 As for who - Anyone with an interest. (loud voice mode) "By the power of grey skull receive and bear the mantal of opertunity " Ok, that was a joke but I've always wanted an opertunity to say it. Seriously anyone with an interst can form a plan and do it. Our country was started by a few mortal men. Girl Scouts was formed by woman no different than those living today. Go forth for you have not failed at the future.

 Tammy - have you thought of starting a diary. Mojo mentioned the lack of prep entries.

 Take care and let me konw what you think.

Regards and respect,
Kobie


[ Parent ]
many of the posters came to figure out how to
take care of their kids, based on a previous survey.  

[ Parent ]
tammy I'm interested in the UK site
I can't find anything either.  Do you have a link?


All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


[ Parent ]
Susan,
I have to say it is not exactly an entirely flu based site. It covers all survivalism, but updates regularly on pandemic flu news. I have learned an awful lot in a short space of time, and feel I am much better prepared. Because it is based in the UK, I can get information about food deals and product advice that is not available here or at PFI. I am loyal to 3 sites now! It is called Ludlow Survivors.  You have probably heard of it. There are a few posters from abroad too,  From reading, quite a few people have been drawn to it regarding Pandemic. It is all relevant to anyone envisioning  a mild to TEOTWAWKI situation.

[ Parent ]
thanks, I'll check it out. n/t



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


[ Parent ]
18-25 year olds
DemFromCT, everyone else,

 I like what Tammy said, er wrote.

 My opinion is the 18 to 25 year olds are on facebook and twitter more than news papers and blogs.

 My experiance has been they hear about H5N1 in college, not high school, but feel there is nothing they can do. That was from my niece.

 Anyone have any other thoughts?

kobie


I don't think any site shoud try to be for everyone
you lose focus and don't excel. There are twitter and facebook opportunities, and there is students prep america, just as two recent diaries here noted.

http://www.newfluwiki2.com/sho...

http://www.newfluwiki2.com/sho...

networks work better than silos ;-)


[ Parent ]
Focus - can not please all the people all the time
DemFromCT,

 I liked the student prep link and the line "We've started sending this out to anyone we could think of, and we hope you'll help us bring our message to as many ears as possible. "

 Wikis may not be for everyone.

 Last thought - the tools that are easiest to use and most comfertable get used most often. If there is something to be improved or changed to make FW better I'm all for it.

 Thanks.

Kobie


[ Parent ]
me, too
suggestions always welcome.

[ Parent ]
prolific posters
Kobie, so far there are 21 posts to this thread (this makes 22) 9 of them are yours, sometimes I feel these threads get "hijacked", honestly, not to hurt anyones feelings, but it turns me off...and I just quit reading.

TXnurse . . . Exactly
I'm afraid you're not the only one who quits reading.

In this thread alone, Kobie, we go from you talking about profit to talking about being a prophet . . . who could ever keep that kind of thing straight - and why would most people bother to try?  Like TXnurse, I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but I think this thread is a great example of why some people quit reading.  

And no, I don't need responses to what I post in order to validate what I say.  I don't think most people come here just to see what other people post in response to what they post.  So who doesn't need a lot of responses for affirmation of what they say?  I don't, that's who doesn't.  I suspect I'm not alone.  


[ Parent ]
personally, I always like a diversity of opinion ;-)
cos there's always something to learn from everyone.  That said, I have severe time constraints such that often times I'd prefer much more focused discussions.  

I tend to skim (and skip) over posts quite quickly, and I reckon others do the same.  That's ok, but there is something valuable when posts are clearly directed towards particular ideas as they evolve.  That is the basis of brainstorming (as opposed to free association), and often the most valuable and piercing insights come from many minds being actively engaged in a particular discussion.  That is not easy to achieve if people (or at least myself) are skipping and skimming over posts most of the time.

Just my personal preference.  I expect others will have different preferences and habits.  LOL


All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


[ Parent ]
First feelings not hurt.
TXNurse,

 First my feelings are not hurt.

 Second - I see your point. Each post is made for a point but too much of one persons post is like painting with one color. It looks bland.

 Third - please let me know if I understand your post. The solution is to either post less or spread out the posts across more subjects so the do not dominate the page or conversation.

Kobie


[ Parent ]
I don't think it has to do with the number of posts, per se ;-)
rather, the issue is relevancy.  I think our discussions can be more productive if we try to stay on topic.  I don't know whether it was pogge or Dem or someone, early on, who said something like, write your post, read it, think, ask yourself do you really need/want to say this (or do other people really need to read this) before you hit the post button.  ;-D  I know I don't always do that, but I do see the merit, in terms of keeping the conversations on track.


All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


[ Parent ]
We are all different -
Some impart news, some information, some views, some chat, some onlook, some summerize, Kobie is, well just Kobie! :-)I actually don't mind what anyone posts!

It's all good for me too
but I miss having more prep discussions.

Life is not so short but that there is always time enough for courtesy. Ralph Waldo Emerson

[ Parent ]
I missed this
I remember there was another survey back in 2006
http://magictour.free.fr/fw/FW...

what distinguished fw from other (pan)flu-forums ?
how many of the people from 2006 are still here ?

ask experts for their subjective
panflu death expectation values
and report the replies


GS - Many, I would imagine
I continue to read, and see many names here "visiting" from back in 2006.

A lot of the people are those who became very involved in an effort to find solutions in their own way.  I would think that many who are involved in pandemic planning are still visiting to read the news and look for the "best practices" that will help them.

Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, that's all who ever have. ~ Margaret Mead


[ Parent ]
I think that's
exactly right.

who became very involved in an effort to find solutions in their own way.


[ Parent ]
Uiv of Arizona is having pandemmic drills
  It looks like some are getting to the 18 to 25 year old crowed.

 I really hope adults are taking care of their children.

Kobie


text form

is the survey available in text form rather than colored bars ?

so it can be quoted to other panflu forums

is it OK to quote it ?

can it be redone at other forums or is it somehow
copyrighted or such ?

ask experts for their subjective
panflu death expectation values
and report the replies


no text
reproduced as I received it. No copytight, just mention the source [FW and TNO Research  Institute (in the Netherlands) and the Danish Technological Institute (DTI)]

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