Reaction to Katerina

This may be what you are looking for

This has been discussed earlier in other posts but may be useful to new members - it is a first person account of evacuation from New Orleans immediately prior to the hurricane and the resulting law and order problems.  The author describes the occurrence of many dangers that Dr. Dave alludes to in his excellent paper describing 6 months of preps.

www.frfrogspad.com/disastr.htm

In the past this did not result in much discussion; I don't think many people want to talk about this but after seeing what the UN is doing for their own people it may be worth a look.

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by: ssol @ Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 11:55:17 AM UTC

Katrina-Wikipedia

Hi,

  Wiki pedia has one view. I'm looking for a news story of how weapons where seized and not returned.

Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia....

[snip]"A federal judge has held New Orleans' mayor and police chief in contempt of court because a city lawyer repeatedly ignored deadlines for answering questions from two gun-rights groups that succeeded in stopping police from seizing guns from law-abiding citizens after Hurricane Katrina. "
[snip]
http://www.nola.com/...

  If people can not prepare for a pandemic, how can they protect themselvs?

kobie

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by: Kobie @ Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 17:46:38 PM UTC

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Contempt of Court

Well maybe some good will come of this after all.

If a local political feels they can suspend the U.S. Constitution any time they want.  This may be their answer.  I hope they put them away for a good long time.  It will be a strong message to ANY ONE who feels they have the right to take weapons away from their owners just because there is a disaster in progress!!!!!

I thought that the article was a heads up for future disaster survivors be it storms or pandemic.  Security must be the number 1 goal. This from the people who know, survivors of Katerina.

RICH

  No warning - no way to fight - no way to win!  
We need help in our local communities to survive. Remember that quote:    "...No man is an island..."

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by: RICHARD-FL @ Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 21:59:10 PM UTC

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On a positive note

Hi,

  During Katrina one IT tech support group stayed on line with a web cam and diary. Yes they layed in both provisions and fire arms.

  Becuase they where more down town and not in worst area things where quiet and police checked on them. Fortunatly they where able to stay. Yes there where some ex-military folk in the group that stayed.

  New Orleans has some flaws IMO. They where getting help from the outside - something I am not counting on.

  For the initial outbreak - I assume China - help will be sent in to contain the outbreak, learn/test treatment options. After that it may hit everyone. By the time it reaches the other side of the world there will be no one to come and help.

Kobie.

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by: Kobie @ Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 12:33:50 PM UTC

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Dr. Jason Irvine interview

http://www.newfluwik...
Dr. Irvine was there and discusses the law and order breakdown.


To calm the wife buy cases of chocolate, to calm the husband buy cases of booze, and to calm the children...... heck the booze and chocolate should work.

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by: Oremus @ Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 22:28:27 PM UTC

Reaction to Katrina

The New Orleans Police Department has a long history of viewing its citizens as the enemy. The corruption in that department ran so deep, citizens would routinely decide against the police in trials.  This caused the department to distrust its public even more.  When the cohesiveness of the New Orleans Police Department fell apart, weakening the force, it was only logical that the Chief would attempt to disarm their number one enemy, the citizens.  It might be remembered that a similar attempt by King George was the catalyst that gave birth to this nation.

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by: cloud9 @ Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 11:12:18 AM UTC

Combing through stuff

Rich ... found some things that might be useful on this topic:

From:  http://www.post-gaze...
NEW ORLEANS -- Dozens of looters ripped open the steel gates on clothing and jewelry stores in New Orleans, some packing plastic garbage cans with loot to float down the street.

One man, who had about 10 pairs of jeans draped over his left arm, was asked if he was salvaging things from his store.

"No," the man shouted, "that's EVERYBODY'S store!"

Looters at a Wal-Mart brazenly loaded up shopping carts with items including microwaves, coolers and knife sets.

Others walked out of a sporting goods store on Canal Street with armfuls of shoes and football jerseys.

Officials said that looting wasn't the primary concern, acknowledging some residents simply were searching for food.

"We found people are taking food because people are hungry," said New Orleans Police Superintendent Eddie Compass. "We'll deal with the looting afterward. Human life is our top priority."

http://interdictor.l... is an interesting blog.  Some political but not too bad from the entries I read.  Goes back to the storms to present time.

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world, indeed it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

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by: KathyinFL @ Fri Mar 30, 2007 at 19:37:40 PM UTC

Thanks for the Updates

I thought it was very interesting that citizens from that very forward thinking city still want a gun for protection after Katerina and the after effects.

I believe this disaster was a bigger eye opener to people then 911 was.  It effected more people, longer time frame, and over a larger area of 7 states.

This is what people remember about 911.  A movie was made, the mayor of NYC is now running for president and...the Congress has forgotten its promises made on the steps of its building the night of 911/912, where they said that whey would back the president is this War no matter what.  In the same building 5 + years later this last week they have tried to stop the war, pull out. and come home!

RICH

  No warning - no way to fight - no way to win!  
We need help in our local communities to survive. Remember that quote:    "...No man is an island..."

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by: RICHARD-FL @ Sun Apr 01, 2007 at 14:00:09 PM UTC

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Rich

Remember the forum rules. Please avoid discussion of politics.

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by: gardner @ Sun Apr 01, 2007 at 17:07:40 PM UTC

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