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Egypt - Jan. 8, 2008 - Jan. 13, 2008

by: Michelle in OK

Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 23:51:11 PM EST


This Diary is to report and discuss the situation in Egypt.

NEW map by Okieman (added by DemFromCT):

...Thanks to Theresa42, pugmom and all other newshounds involved for their diligent work. Kudos to Carol@SC for providing the spreadsheet with this information. Copy of post by Theresa42: "Thanks to commonground, pugmom, Carol@SC, LaidbackAl, flubergasted, Dr. Niman and others for working on sorting out all these suspected cases!"

The previous Egypt News Diary is here.

Additionally, a Link to Dr. Niman's map was provided by maryinhawaii. Note: The table and data here have not been agreed to Dr. Niman's information.

Michelle in OK :: Egypt - Jan. 8, 2008 - Jan. 13, 2008

Egypt Summary - Updated as of 01/10/08

    2007   2008   Total
Cases Discussed   Dec   Jan   Counted
Died, no test results   0   1   1
Died, tested positive   3   1   4
Other tested positive   1   0   1
Symptoms, tests pending   7   207   214
Tested negative   4   20   24
Totals   15   229   244

Status Key:
D=died no test results, d+=died tested positive, P=tested positive, S=symptoms, N=tested negative

Last Updated 01/10/08
Date Name Sex Age Area Died Status
12/30/07 Oula Yunis Ali Mohamed F 25 Beni Suef governorate Yes d+
1/1/08 Anwar Ali Sayyad M 25 Beni Suef governorate   S
1/5/08 16 No names (9 women & 6 children)     Beni Suef governorate   S
1/7/08 Abdullah   25 Beni Suef governorate   S
1/7/08 Mr. Anwarul Hassan   30 Beni Suef governorate   S
1/7/08 Ghani Gomaa Ghani Halim     Beni Suef governorate   S
1/7/08 Naglaa Rifai   15 Beni Suef governorate   S
1/7/08 Sabir Ahmed Zaki     Beni Suef governorate   S
1/7/08 Ahmed Mohamed     Beni Suef governorate   S
1/7/08 Muhammad     Beni Suef governorate   S
12/30/07 Attorh Hanim Ibrahim F 50 Damietta governorate Yes d+
1/4/08 No name     Damietta governorate   S
1/4/08 No name     Damietta governorate   S
1/4/08 No name     Damietta governorate   S
1/4/08 No name     Damietta governorate   S
1/4/08 No name     Damietta governorate   S
1/3/08 Mohamed Fathi   13 Damietta governorate   S
1/7/08 Zeinab Mohamed Muqallad   40 Damietta governorate   S
1/7/08 Omar Abdel Mehran   3 Damietta governorate   S
1/7/08 Nur Mohammad Rizk   54 Damietta governorate   S
1/7/08 Marwa Ashraf   10 Damietta governorate   S
1/7/08 Naglaa Mohamed Muqallad   34 Damietta governorate   S
1/7/08 Na'amat Mugi   60 Damietta governorate   S
1/7/08 Mahmoud Mohamed al   10 Damietta governorate   S
1/1/08 Hamida Abdul Hafiz Rizk     Dakahlia   S
12/31/07 Fatma Fathi Mohamed F 25 Dakahlia Yes d+
1/3/08 Mr. Sadr mediator M 40 Dakahlia   S
1/3/08 Fatma Mohammed Saeed F 45 Dakahlia   S
1/3/08 Mohamed Fathi M 13 Dakahlia   S
1/3/08 Imad Bader Abdulrahman M 40 Dakahlia   S
1/3/08 Abdulrahman Abdulrahman M 9 Dakahlia   S
1/4/08 Mr. Alusivi M   Dakahlia   S
1/4/08 Abdul Rahman Ali Bader M   Dakahlia   S
1/4/08 Abdul Rahman Hamadi M 13 Dakahlia   S
1/4/08 Ibrahim Abdul Aziz     Dakahlia   S
1/4/08 Nuha Mohammed Fathi     Dakahlia   S
1/4/08 Solomon Solomon Reza   2 Dakahlia   S
1/4/08 Hamdi Mohamed Awad   8 Dakahlia   S
1/4/08 Com Mahmoud Rejab F 45 Dakahlia   S
1/4/08 Mr. Omar Almqauri M 13 Dakahlia   S
1/4/08 Faith F 1 Dakahlia   S
1/5/08 16 cases No Name     Dakahlia   S
1/7/08 No name family of 5     Dakahlia   S
1/7/08 No name family of 3     Dakahlia   S
1/9/08 Madiha Ibrahim   55 Dakahlia   S
1/9/08 Jasmine just Mohamed   3 Dakahlia   S
1/9/08 Mohamed Adel Mohammed   2 Dakahlia   S
1/9/08 Hanan Mahmoud Aelchenaiti   28 Dakahlia   S
1/9/08 Mr. Mohammed   26 Dakahlia   S
1/9/08 Mahmoud Al   25 Dakahlia   S
1/9/08 Abdel-Rahman Mahmoud Abdallah   58 Dakahlia   S
1/9/08 Mr. Mahmoud Abdulwahid   49 Dakahlia   S
1/9/08 Fatma Mohammed Eid   45 Dakahlia   S
1/9/08 Safnz Alija   25 Dakahlia   S
1/9/08 Mohammed Hamdi Muawwad   18 Dakahlia   S
1/9/08 Reza     Dakahlia   S
1/9/08 Solomon     Dakahlia   S
1/9/08 Nora     Dakahlia   S
1/9/08 Muhammad Muhammad Abdul Hamid   35 Dakahlia   S
1/1/08 Firdaus Mohamed Hadad F 26 Beheira Governorate Yes d+
12/30/07 Mohamed Khalil Abdul Qawi M 40 Beheira Governorate   S
1/4/08 Reza Ibrahim Ibrahim   10 Beheira Governorate   S
1/4/08 No name     Beheira Governorate   S
1/4/08 No name   6 mo. Beheira Governorate   S
1/4/08 No name Blue Dawar village     Beheira Governorate   S
1/4/08 No name Blue Dawar village     Beheira Governorate   S
1/5/08 Mohamed Fathalla   50 Beheira Governorate   S
1/6/08 Hisham Amr Pasha   3 Beheira Governorate   S
1/7/08 Sarah Khalil Alclav F 40 Beheira Governorate   S
1/5/08 Hanan Farouk Abodev   25 Sohag   S
1/5/08 Hussein Kamal Din   65 Sohag   S
1/5/08 Abdu al   5 Sohag   S
1/5/08 Abdu al's sister   2 Sohag   S
1/5/08 Zeinab   3 Sohag   S
1/5/08 Hanan Mohammed Khalaf   20 or 22 Sohag   S
1/6/08 Nafisa Ahmed Magali   30 Sohag   S
1/6/08 Hanan Farouq Abu     Sohag   S
1/6/08 Hanan Mohammed Khalaf   45 Sohag   S
1/6/08 Ateeq Morgan   23 Sohag   S
1/9/08 Ahmad Mahfouz M 43 Sohag Yes d
1/9/08 Mr. Abir F 29 Sohag   S
1/9/08 Ahsan Ahmed Abdel-Hafiz     Sohag   S
1/9/08 King Mohamed Mohamed Tharwat M 2 Sohag   S
1/9/08 Ahmed Abdo   7 Sohag   S
1/9/08 Iman Hashem Shafi   20 Sohag   S
1/9/08 Mohsen   2 Sohag   S
12/31/07 Nora Aboul Abbas Mohamed F 22 Barhim, Al Minufuyah   P
1/1/08 Mohamed Said Abdul Rahman     Barhim, Al Minufuyah   S
12/30/07 Nader Said Babylonian M 5 Al Minufiyah Governorate   S
12/30/07 Ahmad Abdulmohsen M 6 Al Minufiyah Governorate   S
12/31/07 Abdul Rahman Ibrahim M 57 Al Minufiyah Governorate   S
12/31/07 Abed Rabbo M? 50 Al Minufiyah Governorate   S
12/31/07 Mohammad Ferdous M 36 Al Minufiyah Governorate   S
1/1/08 Adel Mohamed Adel M   Al Minufiyah Governorate   S
1/1/08 Doaa F   Al Minufiyah Governorate   S
1/1/08 Karim Mohamed Fawzi     Al Minufiyah Governorate   S
1/3/08 Mr. Sabbagh M 30 Al Minufiyah Governorate   S
1/6/08 Naglaa Mohammad Saeedi     Al Minufiyah Governorate   S
1/6/08 Abdullah morning     Al Minufiyah Governorate   S
1/9/08 Hanan Ramadan Mohammed F 24 Al Minufiyah Governorate   S
1/9/08 Fatma Mohammed Jibril F 4 Al Minufiyah Governorate   S
12/31/07 Faten F 23 Alexandria   S
1/3/08 Mahdi Abdul Aziz Mahmoud Ashour M 43 Alexandria   S
1/3/08 Mohamed Mahmoud Abdel Hameed M 20 Alexandria   S
1/5/08 Anwar Mohammed Abdul Wahid   14 Alexandria   S
12/31/07 Reza Abdalmugod Abdilkadir M 25 Port Said Governorate   N
12/31/07 Radwan F 29 Port Said Governorate   N
12/31/07 Mohammed M 9 Port Said Governorate   N
12/31/07 Rajab M 5 Port Said Governorate   N
1/3/08 SM Ezbet     Ismailia   N
1/3/08 Salma Ahmed Hussein M 45 Ismailia   N
1/4/08 Mr. Muhammad M 25 Ismailia   N
1/1/08 Ali El-Ashry M 34 Al Gharbiyah   N
1/1/08 Huda Khaled M 2 Al Gharbiyah   N
1/3/08 Sara Adel Aboushadi F 8 Al Gharbiyah   S
1/3/08 Aida Abdul Aziz F 28 Al Gharbiyah   N
1/3/08 AhmedMohammed Salim M 24 Al Gharbiyah   N
1/3/08 HatemMohammed Jamil   52 Al Gharbiyah   N
1/3/08 Mohammed Shihata M 8 mo. Al Gharbiyah   N
1/7/08 papillary Mr. M 59 Al Gharbiyah   S
1/7/08 Nada Mitwalli Ramadan F 2 Al Gharbiyah   S
1/9/08 Fatima Mitwalli F 38 Ash Sharqiyah   S
1/9/08 Mr. Suad M 31 Ash Sharqiyah   S
1/9/08 Hamdiya Ahmed   25 Ash Sharqiyah   S
1/9/08 Nuran Zine El Abidine   8 Ash Sharqiyah   S
1/3/08 Mohamed Khaled Adli   4 mo. Qena   S
1/4/08 Q. Mustafa Hussein F 24 Qena   S
1/4/08 Jasmine Khaled Adli F 2 Qena   S
1/6/08 Mustafa Omar     Qena   S
1/6/08 Amr Khalid Gharib (Omar Khalid)   4 mo. Qena   S
1/6/08 Mostafa Amr Mustafa   4 mo. Qena   S
1/7/08 Mohammed Khairi   4 Qena   S
1/7/08 Ahmed   3 Qena   S
1/8/08 No names     Qena   S
1/8/08 Mayada Abdel Fattah Abdel Hearing   13 mo. Qena   S
1/8/08 Fatima Yusuf Ahmed Abu Hassan     Qena   S
1/8/08 Hanan Ahmed Mahmoud F   Qena   S
1/8/08 Sadli Sayed Abdel Karim Younis   11 Qena   S
1/8/08 Kenya Abulhasan   10 Qena   S
1/8/08 arrows   3 Qena   S
1/8/08 Mohammed Faris Abdul   12 Qena   S
1/8/08 Kawther Mohammed Ahmed Mustapha F   Qena   S
1/9/08 SS Muhammad Ali     Qena   S
1/9/08 Hanan Ahmed Mahmoud Abu     Qena   S
1/9/08 Faris Abdul Mohammed     Qena   S
1/9/08 Kawther Mohammed Ahmed     Qena   S
1/9/08 Mayada Abdel Fattah Abdel Hearer     Qena   S
1/9/08 Fatima Ahmed Hassan     Qena   S
1/1/08 Safaa Mohamed Abdul Razek F   Al Qalyubiyah   S
1/2/08 Mohamed Talaat Mostafa Aboualfdl M 3 Al Qalyubiyah   S
1/3/08 No name     Al Qalyubiyah   S
1/3/08 No name     Al Qalyubiyah   S
1/3/08 No name     Al Qalyubiyah   S
1/6/08 Sami Mahdi Mahdi     Al Qalyubiyah   S
1/6/08 Gamalat Hassan Ibrahim     Al Qalyubiyah   S
1/6/08 Mariam Omran Abossria     Al Qalyubiyah   S
1/1/08 Nabil Ahmed Mohamed M 8 Ash Sharqiyah   N
1/2/08 Samia el-Sayed Awad   55 Ash Sharqiyah   S
1/2/08 Menah Mohamed Fathi   3 Ash Sharqiyah   S
1/2/08 Iman Sobhi   25 Ash Sharqiyah   S
1/2/08 Mohamed Maher Reda   2 Ash Sharqiyah   S
1/3/08 Husam Muhammad M 4 Ash Sharqiyah   S
1/4/08 Hisham Salah Tawfik   4 Ash Sharqiyah   N
1/6/08 No Name     Ash Sharqiyah   N
1/9/08 Mohammed Saeed M 30 Ash Sharqiyah   S
1/3/08 Salah Eddin Mohamed Ali   43 Cairo Governorate   N
1/4/08 No names     Cario Government   N
1/3/08 Equity" Mohamed Hammouda F 32 Kafr El-Sheikh, Kafr ash Shaykh   S
1/3/08 Amal Ibrahim Ghraib   1 Kafr El-Sheikh. Kafr ash Shaykh   S
1/4/08 Zakaria Reham Abdel-Fattah F 16 Al Minya   S
1/9/08 Safwat Lance   25 Al Minya   S
1/9/08 Yasmeen Ali Ahmed F 4 Al Minya   S
1/9/08 Talaat Fouad F 11 Al Minya   S
1/6/08 No Name     Giza   N
1/4/08 10 No name     Governorate Uncertain   S
1/6/08 Huda Ashmawi F 38 Aswan   S
1/6/08 Muhammad Saad Eddin Maghazi   6 Aswan   S
1/9/08 Mahmoud Abdel-Hamid La     Al Buhyarah   S
1/9/08 No names     West Bhmyat   S
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One negative in Sohag.
This may have been posted somewhere already, but I don't see it in the last few Egypt diaries, and it's dated today.  I guess this is a negative that can be added for Sohag.

The death of one suspects reporting Panevloza birds in Sohag after suffering liver fibrosis 1/8/2008 7:38:00 PM

Sohag - died Tuesday, hospital dietary city of Sohag suspected avian influenza illness in a time when medical examinations proved his liver.

Said Dr. Nabil Nasri Bibawi Director hospital dietary Sohag News Agency, the Middle East - that the patient and called on Ahmad Mahfouz - 43 years - Sheikh status of Dar es Salaam Institute of girls had been transferred from the hospital Tuesday digestive system and liver to the hospital in the city of Sohag diets on the basis of suspicion of illness Avian influenza.

Samples have been taken from it and sent to the Ministry of Health laboratories for analysis, however, died after hours of entering the hospital ... confirming that the report of medical examination of the situation confirmed that the cause of death drain Dualeh oesophagus result in cirrhosis of the liver and had nothing to the death of avian influenza disease.

http://www.masrawy.com%2Fnews%...

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On second reading...
they're not saying he tested negative, just that his cause of death is officially cirrhosis of the liver.  Hmm...

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[ Parent ]
I know this is old news, but some things here remain puzzling
For example, he apparently already was in the digestive/liver hospital for his condition, but must have then developed symptoms which made the staff believe he might have bf.

Ahmad Mahfouz - 43 years - Sheikh status of Dar es Salaam Institute of girls had been transferred from the hospital Tuesday digestive system and liver to the hospital in the city of Sohag diets on the basis of suspicion of illness Avian influenza

I looked up "hepatic fibrosis" and then Cirrhosis (which is the end game of hepatic fibrosis) and didn't see a single symptom listed which resembled bird flu. Here's a couple of links.

http://tinyurl.com/3bd6p9  (symptoms of cirrhosis)

Hepatic fibrosis refers to the accumulation of interstitial or 'scar' extracellular matrix after either acute or chronic liver injury. Cirrhosis, the end-stage of progressive fibrosis, is characterized by...

http://www.medscape.com/viewar...

So, like you said, he may have died of cirrhosis, but that doesn't really mean he didn't have bf.

Always have a plan B.


[ Parent ]
Exactly. n/t


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[ Parent ]
Indirect Impact of the Flu
Whether or not he had H5N1 or whether or not it contributed to his death, this example highlights the potential for a flu pandemic to increase its mortality by piling on to those already suffering from chronic debilitating conditions.  

ITW(Joel J)
Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear.
- Mark Twain
 


[ Parent ]
That's an excellent point.
We really aren't all that much healthier as a species (probably actually less healthy) than we were in 1918...it's just that medicine has advanced to such a degree that people with these serious health problems are kept alive much longer with lots of health care. If a pandemic hits, they won't be getting that kind of care anymore: that alone even without flu is going to kill many.

Always have a plan B.

[ Parent ]
Follow up on the meeting of the Supreme Committee + 15 unnamed suspect cases detained.
I think this includes the 8 cases in Qena reported in the previous diary, but there is also report on some of what was said at the meeting that was mentioned in that article.

Reservation 15 cases suspected avian influenza, clean headed by the Supreme Committee meeting to combat the disease 1/8/2008 10:37:00

CAIRO - Editor TOM - The Ministry of Health seizure of 15 cases of hospital provinces of Qena and the lake and the West, Menya, Sohag and so on suspicion of avian influenza illness.

The Supreme Committee for the control of avian influenza at its meeting on Tuesday under the chairmanship of Dr. Ahmed Nazif, the prime minister's position after the emergence of cases of the disease and hotbeds of infection in poultry farms and home education in addition to the emergence of some human casualties disease.

Dr Magdi Radi spokesman for the Council of Ministers meeting that will follow what has been done to combat the disease and the implementation of resolutions on vaccinate poultry and the prevention of trafficking in live poultry and not to deal directly with them and the further establishment of massacres mechanism.

Despite the decision of the Governor of Giza Dr. Fathi Saad banning the sale of live birds in markets and shops and its organized campaigns to close the assignee violation of this limited but inaction in the implementation of these resolutions has become a general phenomenon throughout the preserve particularly in the popular areas, indiscriminate.

(snip discussion of incidents reported in various newspapers.)

Maximum readiness to face the emergence of the disease comes at the time of the transfer of 17 cases to hospitals on suspicion of the safety of the disease in 3 provinces, where citizens have been moved 7 in the province of Beheira and transfer to the dietary 8 citizens in Qena to the hospital dietary Market General Hospital on suspicion sickened addition Reservation two in Sohag had one run away from the hospital.  (Not sure if any of these are new.)

Denied. President Hamid Samaha Vet Services Authority to stop the importation of vaccines for the bird flu virus, and pointed out that all vaccines for Permission to enter the country only after validation and efficiency

Added.  Samaha that the problem occurred recently, not in response to the influenza vaccine due to poor operations conservation, transportation and circulation, explaining that the Minister of Agriculture called for the application of safety conditions in all the vital farm also decided to form a committee to develop inspection and inventory of farms are not bound by these terms and penalties of up to the immediate closure , 6 months

He also indicated that the Minister of Agriculture demanded deterrent legislation to criminalize the transfer of birds, trafficking and trading in the market and allow the private sector to invest in the establishment of the massacres to accommodate all of the poultry production.  

http://www.masrawy.com%2Fnews%...

 

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Discovery wells and new infections in the Western, Eastern and Sohag.
Outbreaks of disease affects people Balrgb .. The prices of meat, fish high in Alexandria

The Higher Committee to address the avian influenza held today under the chairmanship of Dr. Ahmed Nazif, the Prime Minister to follow up the situation after the re-emergence of bird flu, cases in poultry farms and domestic education and the emergence of some human casualties. Dr Magdi Radi, spokesman of the Council of Ministers today that the Committee will follow up the implementation of the measures to combat the spread of bird flu

Particularly with regard to the need to vaccinate poultry, and prevent the sale of live birds and the expansion of the administration massacres mechanism. The state of terror has swept a number of provinces after the outbreak of cases of suspected infection and hotbeds of new infections .. Having taken provinces appeared hotbeds of infection several measures and swift action to counter the threat of bird flu after the discovery of an injury and the hot new suspected cases of the disease.

The number of suspects reporting the disease has risen to »11« Sohag case has been the focus of the discovery of new infections village Aldnaklh status of the business. Jishim one infected alleges Mr. Abir homemaker »29« years Sohag Hospital salt .. Dr. Mustapha, the director general of preventive medicine Department of Health reservation to all patients in hospital as a precautionary measure to complete treatment .. Said Dr Abu Kassim flower Undersecretary of the Ministry of Health that measures taken to counter the threat of the disease in the border areas and decided to implement the instructions strictly to prevent outbreaks »epidemic«.

In East have been detained 4 cases suspected of carrying the disease pathogenesis Zagazig hospital, and they Mohammed Saeed »30 years« of Zagazig, Mr. Suad »31 years« of the Abrahamic and Fatima Mitwalli »38 years« wheat from semen samples were taken and sent to labs central Ministry of Health. . The police forces Bchmie poultry shops and the confiscation of machines and tools and cleaning slaughtered poultry were culled 150 thousand farm chickens City Salehia new owner was discovered in flocks in 12 deaths amber came tests positive.

The Major General Nabil El Ezaby Assiut Governor implement training programmes for owners of hatcheries to learn how to apply the methods of immunization and preventive measures to tackle the disease.

He called on the Department of Health to review stockpiles of medicines and review preparations hospitals to cope with the disease, and to ensure speed to deal with him, were taken written undertakings excess of 124 registration date of the entry of eggs and stocks of birds and date immunization.

He threatened journalists hatcheries crackdown against dissent and containing the decisions of closure and the execution of existing quantities of birds.

Resulted currencies preventive heat executed 170 chickens and 25 pigeon nests and remove 20 random Btnta the epidemic has struck the four corners maintaining the detention of 11 cases were suspected of carrying the disease in a hospital in salt Mahala and 7 cases Hospital Dietetic Tanta and two al-Azhar, one case in the district were detained 4 new cases and send samples to make sure sickened to the central Ministry of Health laboratories.

And Eng Corner governor of the West tighten procedures and the preparation of ambushes in the border areas to ensure that maintaining leakage birds carrier of the disease from neighbouring provinces.

It was seized 3 cars loaded with the transfer of live poultry coming from the lake for sale in Alexandria, and Police Supply launched campaigns to control 37 people from the owners of shops and poultry farms in possession of 575 was flying without a license transfer, and the reservation to load cars violating mandated Directorate of Veterinary Medicine in Alexandria withdraw samples of poultry and examined to determine the extent of her illness.

The market in Alexandria has witnessed a big increase in the price of red meat, and frozen fish because of the reluctance of people from buying birds, and the escalation of the fears of her disease arrived Price per kilo to 46 pounds of red meat, 18 pounds of frozen meat, fish mullet prices rose to 19 pounds and 12 pounds tilapia per kilogram.

In Qena been detained 5 cases Hospital Dietetic Qena on suspicion of being infected with the disease-control car was carrying 16 thousand broilers.

On the other hand, were executed 15 thousand bird poultry farm station Qena of illness avian influenza. Dr Abdel Salam COLLEGE Director, Directorate of Veterinary Medicine another.

http://www.alwafd.org/v3/News/...

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Pigeons could be a likely spreader to rooftop poultry
I forgot about them as a potential carrier, until reading this line above:
executed 170 chickens and 25 pigeon nests

Pigeons would be able to fly up to rooftops to scavenge food from the chickens and thus transfer the virus to them, wouldn't they?

Always have a plan B.


[ Parent ]
Pigeon's plausable.
MaryInHawaii,

 Sounds plausable for cross contamination and spreadding from pigeon to chickens, etc

 There are several videos on Youtube and Break.com of Pelacans and seaguls eating pigeon live.

 Here is one from BBC. source http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
 Break.com
http://www.break.com/index/pel...

 Seagul eating live, not dead, pigeonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXKwQzYLPHE

 I could not stomach the video of people eating pigeon. That may be one more way people get H5N1.

Kobie


[ Parent ]
Chickens in Manhattan. even in the apartment
Mary,

 Two quick articles about people rasing poultry for eggs in large cities.

 Manhattan - pic of chicken inside swank apartment
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05...

 Chicago:
http://www.thedailygreen.com/g...

Kobie
"Fact is stranger than fiction"  


[ Parent ]
I wonder what kind of caging system would be used on a rooftop in Egypt.
I kept chickens until very recently, and the only way I see Egyptians keeping chickens on rooftops is in cages.  They would have to be pretty poor cages if pigeons were able to scavange from them.  In my personal experience, it is always important to protect chicken feed from wild birds.  The reasons are two-fold.  First, there are health issues involved.  Second, I don't want to feed wild birds my chicken feed.  It's too expensive.  I think that, at least, that second issue would occur to Egyptians raising chickens and eggs for the table.  

Where contamination might happen is through droppings.  Pigeons will land on those cages, and possibly roost there...and you know the rest of that song.  Chickens aren't terribly picky about the cleanliness of what they eat.  That's why it is extremely important to always put feed in a feeder, and not toss it on the ground.  Again, this is standard practice taught to 4-H kids in the U.S., but I don't know about the standards in Egypt.

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[ Parent ]
Nice breakdown of cases by area.
Avian influenza Tkosher the extract .. In the provinces
17 .. 17 cases suspected of carrying the disease .. Of the contacts of chickens

Avian influenza started Tkosher extract from the provinces. Reservation where 17 new cases hospitalized on suspicion of being infected with the disease from chickens or contacts for educators him.

Was imposing security cordons and ambushes at the entrances and exits provinces to tackle the disease and taking multiple actions to eliminate it, including the removal of nests and educating citizens and the closure of shops that sell

: Western Abu Dashic:
Detained Hospital Dietetic Tanta and Mahala three new cases of suspected bird flu infection are Madiha Ibrahim Mustafa 35 years "homemaker" has been detained Hospital Dietetic Mahala also been detained by the Hamdiya Ahmed explained 25 years and Nuran Zine El Abidine 8 years Bhmyat Tanta and after their rise temperature and congestion in the throat and sampling of blood and the appearance of the throat to be sent to central laboratories to ensure injury.

: Karem Guentoc lake:
Detained Hospital Dietetic Damanhour Shihata glass Resident Mahmoud Abdel-Hamid La spinner branch on suspicion of being infected with avian influenza after a sudden rise in temperature, red face and narrow throat.  Samples were taken from it and from bird contact him and sent to central laboratories for analysis.

: Abdel Razek Menoufiya emerged :
Asked Major General Hassan Hamida governor Menoufiya remove all nests at the top of the roofs of houses. He pointed to the danger of contact with citizens of domestic birds.  He commended Mohamed Nabil Abu eyes President neighborhood west of Shebin Mound that was closing 6 stores sell live poultry Quarters. Dr Saifullah good Undersecretary of the Ministry of veterinary medicine Menoufiya that were culled 12 thousand farm chickens Mohamed Elsayed Mohamed Bnahih leader Swimming Center after the seven-ray analyses confirmed that bird flu epidemic.

Dr. Ahmed Fouad, director general of veterinary Bahmon out that the detention of Hanan Ramadan Mohammed 24 years "homemaker" resident Bnahih Pharaonic Hospital Dietetic Science and girls Fatma Mohammed Jibril 4-year resident Bnahih Chamma Hospital Dietetic worries on suspicion of bird flu disease injured were taken sample for analysis of their central labs of the Ministry of Health in Cairo.

: Qena Abdel Moneim Mansour:
Qena were executed in 15 thousand broilers and the 16 thousand broilers to Western Province after it had been seized at the entrance to the city of Qus. And 6 cases were detained on suspicion of being infected with avian influenza virus Hospital Qena are: SS Muhammad Ali from Qena, Hanan Ahmed Mahmoud Abu _i, Faris Abdul Mohammed who we inaugurated and Kawther Mohammed Ahmed of tunes and Mayada Abdel Fattah Abdel Hearer of Qena, Fatima Ahmed Hassan of the village of Dandara another.

: Sohag Huda Hosni:
In Sohag were detained two new super hospital on suspicion of Sohag injured disease and avian influenza are Ahsan Ahmed Abdel-Hafiz from the village wells Babylon and King Mohamed Mohamed Tharwat year and a half from the village boys Chlol been sampling them, and sent to the central factor.

: Menya Mustafa PM:
modules detained suspected cases sickened Hospital where she was detained salt Menya hope Safwat Lance 25 years and the girl Yasmeen Ali Ahmed 4 years and cases from the village of Sheikh Hassan examining the status of detained Hospital Dietetic Megaga girl prayer Talaat Fouad 11 years has been taking samples of them were sent to the central laboratories in Cairo .

http://www.algomhuria.net.eg%2...


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Egypt/so now what do we do
I think I have reached my saturation point/unable to keep up with the cases and names.  I have not been tabulating, which is the hard job, but am wondering if any of you feel the same way.  At this point, I think I will just keeping posting, making sure my dates are absolutely current and up-to-date, and post the latest news every day, hoping to see/feel/intuit any changes or trends.  To those of you that are trying to tabulate, I want to know how you are feeling.  Oh yeah, here is a blurb dated 1-9-08:  http://www.ahram.org.eg/Index....

.....Governorates raced time to besiege the bird flu virus
Reservation 10 new human cases of divorce
And immunization of thousands of birds valley
.. And the execution of 170 thousand able
Despite the efforts and preventive measures taken by the local administrations and medical and veterinary governorates to overcome the bird flu virus, but he was booking 10 new human cases of West Bhmyat, and the preparation of suspected sickened increasing, at a time when decisions raced Governors and mayors of time of the siege of the disease.....


It's about like that legal trick you see pulled in the movies, eh?
In response to a subpoena, one side will send mountains and mountains of papers to the other side, but it's really just hiding the few critical pages they didn't want their opponents to see.  

Basically, I am just posting stories that contain names that I don't see in the list yet or stories that appear current by date.  Thought I'd try to give some of the Egypt newshounds a break.

Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute!


[ Parent ]
Pugmom, this is another sign.
When even the dedicated specialized newshounds can no longer keep up with names and cases, we are heading into a time and space where I do not want to think about.  

[ Parent ]
I'm clearly not one of the newshounds (but am thankful for your work) ...
I've been checking the Egypt threads several times a day, for obvious reasons. I'm hoping we are in large part be seeing the results of well-informed health personnel reacting (appropriately) in a highly cautious fashion. But you are not alone in your concern ...

       


[ Parent ]
Pugmom
I am having trouble pin pointing what Governorate these people are in so I can post them to the correct place on my spreadsheet. I am not that familiar with Egypt geography. I am using a map and I am still confused. The other confusing thing for me is that I am afraid I am going to post the "no names" twice because they keep saying things like 7 cases detained here and so many there, etc. With out specific names I can't tell if I have them counted. Any suggestions to help me?

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     


[ Parent ]
Check the case information diary.
I'm working on sorting some of these out by governorate.

Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute!

[ Parent ]
Where is WHO?
Where is the WHO? I only hearing silence. Isn't a situation like this part of their job description? I read where they were in the country. So what are they doing? Come on WHO get to a microphone, call a press conference and give us something here. Your silence is deafening!

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     


[ Parent ]
Good question.
Very good question.

[ Parent ]
We deserve some answers.
We know that various educational, health, and government agencies read our news threads, and we have always been content to provide this valuable service.  But right now the public needs to know what is going on in Egypt, and we do not have access to the type of information that is needed.  What we do know is that hospitals are filling with patients faster than our dedicated specialists can record.  Haven't we always been told that this is an indication that something serious is occurring?  I agree with Carol that WHO should hold a press conference and explain the situation.

"I am opposed to any form of tyranny over the mind of man."  Thomas Jefferson

[ Parent ]
Also I have not read a single thing in the western news re this egypt outbreak.Has anyone seen anything online, on TV or elsewhere in the west? n/t


Always have a plan B.

[ Parent ]
Nada n/t


ITW(Joel J)
Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear.
- Mark Twain
 


[ Parent ]
Nothing
And it's not because I haven't been looking!

[ Parent ]
What would they report?
What would you (we) like them to be reporting at this point?

Given the number of suspected cases in the various locations, the limited background and low gag-threshold most non-flublogia readers have for detail on this topic, what would the news 'message' be?

I ask this because I am guessing that there are western reporters or media outlets out there looking at developments in Egypt, knowing it may be newsworthy, but who are scared of creating a panic or of sounding alarmist, are not willing to rely on flublogia for the detail, are not willing/able to do their own investigation and since none of their competitors are reporting it - they figure they are not placing themselves at a competitive disadvantage by not reporting on it.

What is the paragraph-long (or two at most), wire-service-ready report on what's going on in Egypt?  

ITW(Joel J)
Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear.
- Mark Twain
 


[ Parent ]
Russian News and Information Agency - NOVOSTI on Runaway
Turning to Russia for an example of how our 3rd Estate might address this outbreak - now there's irony for those of us that grew up with 'duck and cover'.  

http://en.rian.ru/world/200801...

Egyptian woman flees hospital after H5N1 diagnosis
16:09 | 07/ 01/ 2008

CAIRO, January 7 (RIA Novosti) - A 23-year-old woman has escaped from a hospital in Egypt after being preliminary diagnosed with a deadly bird flu virus, local media reported on Monday.

The woman was hospitalized last week with high temperature in the town of Tahta in the Upper Egyptian Sohag Governorate. She fled the hospital following the doctors' decision to transfer her to a special clinic.

Of 43 Egyptians infected with bird flu, mostly women and children who contracted the virus after coming into contact with infected poultry, 19 have died, four of them in the past two weeks.

Egyptian health authorities have reported that 10 other patients with bird flu symptoms are currently hospitalized in three governorates - Dakahlia, Gharbia and Sohag.

The first case of the deadly H5N1 bird flu virus was reported in the Middle East country in February 2006.

A total of 216 deaths out of 348 bird flu human cases have been registered worldwide by the World Health Organization (WHO) since 2003.

Although no cases of human-to-human transmission of avian influenza have been reported, scientists fear the virus could mutate into a strain that could pass easily from person to person, causing a global pandemic.



ITW(Joel J)
Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear.
- Mark Twain
 


[ Parent ]
"What would they report?"
An assessment of the situation would be appropriate. They are on the ground there and they are assisting the Egyptian government. Surely that means they are investigating the cases, visiting the hospitals and  giving some training to the doctors and hospital staff. Since Egypt is being so open I would think WHO is getting viral samples to test. They sure had lots to say during the Pakistan cluster so why the silence now? Why the total silence when so many suspects are filling the hospitals?

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     


[ Parent ]
I really agree with CarolSC
The WHO ought to be keeping the world informed on this.  What it knows to be true, what it thinks may be true but needs confiemation, what appears to be rumors, etc. They must know all sorts of stuff.  

Give them an "A" for arrogance?  Give the media a similar
grade?

Has anybody got any ideas about what "we" might be able to do to stimulate the release of information from the WHO or the media? Carol, I guessing maybe you (and others) have had at least a few thoughts along that line?


[ Parent ]
I guess one way would be to ask them
what exactly they think is the virus that is causing all these cases and hospitals being swarmed.  Is it the same as the Australian situation?  Australia was pretty quick in announcing that the virus that they found was the seasonal flu virus, so presumably Egypt or NAMRU-3 or WHO can do the same, even if there aren't many found to be positive for H5.  If for example the no of severe seasonal flu cases has risen dramatically like it did in Australia, they should be getting a sense by now whether a lot of cases are seasonal flu.  They can tell us that instead of just saying negative for H5.

The sudden increase in suspected cases is cause for concern, but the red herring may be a bad flu season, and there is reason to at least put that as one possibility, cos of the severity just experienced by Australia.  The other possibility is a combination of a bad flu season plus the presence of poultry deaths, such that more people are put on the suspect list to be tested than normal.  Remember that severe seasonal flu can look exactly the same as BF.



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


[ Parent ]
I wish I had the answer.
I suspect there are people working for WHO that cruise the flu sites and I was hoping that by bringing attention to their silence maybe somehow it would spur someone to speak out. Susan made a good point about asking them for information. I don't know who to contact. Susan, do you have any connections at WHO that you could contact for answers for us? FYI, I have not seen one reference made yet about seasonal flu being associated with these cases. All the articles I have read say they are being detained on suspicion of bird flu. The whole point is, that by now the WHO has some idea of what is going on there and how serious it is. The fear of not knowing is usually worse than the facts so by not speaking out they are giving the impression they don't have a handle on this outbreak. We want and need information that only they can give us.

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     


[ Parent ]
I wrote the following to David Heymann last night
(highlights added here for ease of reading).

I got a reply this morning that this enquiry has been forwarded to John Rainford, the WHO information officer, and I'm awaiting his reply.

As you know we have a lot of people tracking news media around the world for suspected and real cases of H5N1 infections.  Most of the time their eventual case count ends up being the same as that of the WHO, even though like you guys it takes a bit of time to sort out the various cases.  The recent sudden increase in number of suspected cases out of Egypt is causing some concern.  This of course is likely to be nothing more than severe seasonal flu, as was experienced in Australia recently.  However, there is some speculation that for some unknown reason, news about the increase in such suspected cases appears to have disappeared completely from English language media.

I made a comment here, just FYI.  http://www.newfluwiki2.com/sho...

The situation highlights two issues.  First is the paucity of news, which as I said is a little unsettling to some of the volunteers and no doubt readers as well.  It would help if either the Egyptian authorities or WHO (or even NAMRU-3, which I believe is probably not feasible) can tell the world what you know, even if the information is sketchy.  For example, if they are finding mostly seasonal flu cases in the results, it would be helpful to announce that, just to get people off their jitters.

The wider context is this, and it's not a problem that has a easy solution, but I thought I should bring it to your attention and see if you have suggestions for us.  We may be an all-volunteer non-professional website, but we have a very wide readership.  Many including mainstream media come to us as one of the earliest sources in the public domain, and I'm beginning to be concerned that if and when we get to the beginning of either a real pandemic or even something that looks like it, the panic can start and escalate very quickly.  Timely information is very useful.  We (as moderators) try our best to bring some rationality to discussions, and most of the time we succeed.  But I do think it's prudent to anticipate what will happen in a crisis situation, as we are most likely to be the earliest source of news for people at a time when nothing is certain and speculation is rife.

I'd really appreciate your thoughts on these issues.





All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


[ Parent ]
My 2 cents
We (as moderators) try our best to bring some rationality to discussions, and most of the time we succeed.

To question, to search for answers, to seek out the truth, to use our collective minds and voice our concerns in discussion is not in any way irrational and never has been. Never once in my time on FW have I seen a need for a moderator to "bring rationality to the discussions." It appears to me that everyone here is level headed and well behaved.

I would hate for anyone to get the wrong impression of the FW members.

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     


[ Parent ]
well, if you didn't need it, that's fine ;-)
but personally I would never assume our forum discussions to be perfect.  There are always misunderstandings and stuff to sort out, it's all part of the deal, really, on any forum. Comes with the territory.



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


[ Parent ]
The Need for Timely Truth
Carol:  I agree with you, but truth is even here I think the need arises on occasion. (Dem had to reel me in not long ago when he noticed a little too much tinfoil on my head.  I went back, did some more research and retracted my comment.)  It happens.

By comparison with many internet discussion boards, FW is much less in need, but in order to maintain the high level of discussion here, high standards are applied - by mods and for the most part by the general posters.

It also helps outsiders to understand the need for the type of information Susan requested - that mods and other posters can operate to keep false rumors, misinformation and misunderstanding from spreading - but only if they have real and timely information to do so.


ITW(Joel J)
Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear.
- Mark Twain
 


[ Parent ]
ITW you are right
The main emphasis for me, in this context, was to say that we have a great resource here but we do need more timely information especially in times of uncertainty and events moving fast while the public is in the dark.  If and when a pandemic arises, my concern is that murky period before things get clearer one way or the other, when the potential exists for misunderstandings to arise.  The internet can be very effective and efficient in spreading news, but it cuts both ways too.  

Anyway, I just thought it important to offer that thought for the WHO to consider, (and to share with y'all here), that we fulfill an important albeit unofficial role, and there may be consequences for the wider world if more thought is not given to that kind of scenario.

Having said that, knowing how slow their machinery works, I don't expect a response any time soon.  If they do, great.  If not, then we'll just carry on with what we are doing.  ;-)



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


[ Parent ]
That is the simplest and most logical answer, Carol
by not speaking out they are giving the impression they don't have a handle on this outbreak.

They don't.

And remember,  it's not just WHO not reporting....all the major media sources are dead silent on this outbreak. WHY?

It's not like reporters have ever waited for WHO to tell them what to say in the past...these are professionals who read not just the flu blogs but also read the other sources that our newshounds read, and then report independently on what they find out. If they are suddenly reporting absolutely nothing the most likely reason is not that they don't know that there is an outbreak with hundreds of suspect cases and a number of deaths. That is news!

It is because they are not being ALLOWED to report what's going on, IMO. A global news blackout on the subject?

The "why" behind that gives me the willies.

Always have a plan B.


[ Parent ]
well, not global
If it was global, you wouldn't find anything at all, including Arab language media.  



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


[ Parent ]
Of course, that's a given. I probably should have used the term
"International" in the context of "international news media blackout" in order to differentiate it from local news media sources in the infected areas. Didn't think it was necessary.

Always have a plan B.

[ Parent ]
sorry, I see what you mean now ;-)
Here's where you must have thought I was jumping on you!  Apologies again.  The reason why I got sensitive to the word global, for a moment, was because I was writing to David Heymann yesterday and so just before that I needed to make sure what I was saying about what was or was not in the media was accurate.  THAT got me thinking (yesterday, not today) whether there are good reasons why the news would come out in Arab language media but not in English.  

I guess it sort of stayed in my mind, when I read your post!  ARGH!  The weirdness of brains and communications!

Really, I'm sorry, didn't mean to give you a hard time.  



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


[ Parent ]
seasonal vs avian flu
FYI, I have not seen one reference made yet about seasonal flu being associated with these cases. All the articles I have read say they are being detained on suspicion of bird flu.

The thing is, like I said, severe seasonal flu can cause the same disease as avian flu, but one would hardly report (to the media) any cases that are SUSPECTED to have seasonal flu.  It's newsworthy and also of public interest only if BF is suspected.  But this being flu season, whatever number of BF cases there are, they will be outnumbered by a very large margin by seasonal flu cases.  The key is finding out whether those who are said to be negative for H5N1 did test positive for seasonal flu, which will shorten the list of suspected cases substantially.



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


[ Parent ]
Seasonality?
IIRC, last year, cases in Egypt were said to peak in late March-April, coinciding with the peak of their flu season.

If that were true, it would imply that late Dec., early Jan., is a bit on the early side for the onset of seasonal flu in Egypt.  Am I missing something here?  I know there are always early seasonal cases, sometimes early outbreaks - but isn't the timing a little off for thinking that there would be a lot of seasonal flu circulating for the past few weeks, and now?


[ Parent ]
yes, their winter starts around November
They have mild winters of course, but the seasonality still exists.

Here's a travel site that tells you about seasons in Egypt

Also read Effect Measure on Egypt, here and here.



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


[ Parent ]
Compared to Australian Spread
Do we know if the seasonal flu variant that struck hard (and wide) in Australia is in this area?  

So far it's not in the US from what I know.

If if this were merely a tough case of seasonal flu, how does it's spread compare to that of Australia?  

Wouldn't you expect to see much greater geographic spread and frequency?

I think back to the reports from Australia and my sense is we are not hearing about similar spread or impact on the population or health care centers in Egypt.

ITW(Joel J)
Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear.
- Mark Twain
 


[ Parent ]
I don't know how you do it
but thanks for that great list of named cases at the top of the diary.  It's an amazing effort for you Egypt trackers to sort through all of this. We should be sending each of you a case of that stuff, you know:

Head-On, Apply Directly To The Forehead..Head-On, Apply Directly To The Forehead...


[ Parent ]
Pixie:
Right now I will settle for a bottle of liquor and I won't be picky. Oh, and throw in a bottle of tylenol for the headache I am getting from trying to sort this all out!

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     


[ Parent ]
Saturation point is exactly right
This feels much busier to me than previous outbreaks in Egypt.

I don't know if that's because:

- there are actually more suspected cases (we may find out some day if/when we hear a total number);

- there is better reporting by the media;

- we're looking at more sources -- the first time I did this back in March 2006 I was only checking something like 2 or 3 Egyptian newspapers -- I didn't know about more (how naive!) -- maybe this is just as busy as before only I missed it;

- all of the above -- or something else...?

??

Whatever the story is, it's just crazy (and I still don't have my broadband back -- aaargh!)

Thanks everybody!  I haven't had a chance to check my list with anybody else's -- hopefully tomorrow when I'm back online properly (or so they promise).

Proud FAF-er.


[ Parent ]
Reservation 15 cases suspected bird flu among humans
And monitoring 21 new hotbed in 8 days, including 10 home

Al-Shafei Corner
Books - Premier Debis, Samir adding, Hashim Mohamed Tahir HA: yesterday detained 15 different health directorates new cases were suspected of being infected with avian influenza to exceed the number of detainees in different governorates 55 cases of suspicion, while tests proved negative 33 others were detained were also monitoring 21 hotbed new in 8 days at the level of the Republic. In Western Province, were detained 9 cases of family fully assess the village »Alsjaih«

The father Hamada Darwish 45 years and wife Iman Musaad Desouki, 40 years and 20 years Fawzi son, Karim 15, and Muhammad 12 years, in addition to Huda Abd al-aged 28 and 14 years old Fathiya Bakry student Hospital salt and Mahala were detained while Ghada Abdel Ibrahim 30 years, Zeenat 37-year old Mohammad Rifai, hospital salt Tanta.

In Mansoura detained by the Directorate of Health both: Abdulaziz Shimaa 10 years, Center Line, Zakia Ibrahim Hamdi 45 years from the village swapbody, and Ibrahim Youssef Mohammed Aezzasenh Center Address, in a hospital Sadr addition to the existence of previous cases of Madiha Ibrahim, aged 55, and Jasmine just Mohamed 3 years, and Mohamed Adel Mohammed year and a half science, Hanan Mahmoud Aelchenaiti 28 years, the quality of Mr. Mohammed, aged 26, and Mahmoud Al quality of Mr. 25, and Abdel-Rahman Mahmoud Abdallah 58 years, Mr. Mahmoud Abdulwahid 49 years old, and Fatma Mohammed Eid 45 years, and insist Safnz Alija 25, and Mohammed Hamdi Muawwad 18, and Reza, Solomon and the `Nora, and the blessing of Muhammad Muhammad Abdul Hamid 35 years.
The central laboratories has shown some positive samples taken from them.

In Sohag, said Dr. Mohammed Abdel Aal, Undersecretary of the Ministry of Health detention of Ahmed Abdo Saudi 7 years, and Iman Hashem Shafi, 20 hospital dietary while Marwan been detained Mohsen two years, hospital-Sadr was central laboratories had proved negative 8 previous cases.

Has been sent samples of all detainees from various governorates of Cairo Central labs for analysis.

On a related disclosure Dr. Sabir Abdul Aziz, director general of public administration for poultry diseases and epidemics of the General Authority for Veterinary Services emergence of 21 new epicentre of the disease since the beginning of January, 11 injured and 10 poultry farmer household injuries.

He said: It has been vaccinated 5.6 million birds since mid-December last year in the framework of the national campaign of vaccination of domestic birds.

In the same context, stressed different governorates of precautionary procedures against the disease, said Dr Sharif Juma Undersecretary of the Ministry of Health story that has been removed 45 nests home and executed 600 bird Btnta and Mahala, in addition to 35 nests random market Tanta.

And Eng Corner, governor of the West, it was the work of 14 different ambushed at the entrances to the governorate and exit sites to prevent the transport of live birds and without a licence.

The Major General Ahmed Abdul Hamid, Governor of North Sinai, that the preservation completely clean of the disease, stressing the prevention of the entry of live poultry and birds to maintain or between cities and different positions.

http://www.alwafd.org/v3/News/...

Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute!


Table
Michelle, you need correct the "Died" column in the table.  I'm sure you had January, 2008 on the mind since you were adding so many dates with that in the "Date" column.  

That was my mistake
Michelle just posted what I had sent her. I made the corrections on my spreadsheet and sent them to Michelle this morning. Sorry about that. It has been hectic and more than a little confusing.

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     


[ Parent ]
Egypt adopts package of measures against avian influenza after new cases
google translation

09/01/2008 - 12h02
Egypt adopts package of measures against avian influenza after new cases

 Cairo, January 9 (EFE) .- The Egyptian government adopted a package of measures to contain the spread of avian influenza, after a worrying increase in the number of victims of the virus, transmitted mainly due to the creation of poultry.

 With the beginning of January, when the virus becomes very active due to the cold, and after the death of four people in less than a week in December due to infection, the authorities went into alert to contain the disease.

 Since the virus appeared in Egypt in February 2006, were detected in 43 cases of avian influenza infection in humans, of which 19 were fatal, leaving the country in fourth place in the world in the number of cases lethal.

To address the new measures against avian influenza, the Ministers of Defence, Interior, Foreign Affairs, Health, Environment, Transport, Agriculture, Development and Education University, in addition to the governors of the provinces where outbreaks of the virus were detected met on Tuesday , today announced the local press.

Among the measures is the closure for at least six months of the farms where the virus appeared, and the total ban on transport of live poultry between provinces, measure already ordered several times, always in ways unsuccessful.

 Moreover, the authorities continue with the construction around the country of modern mechanized slaughterhouses to comply with a daily production of 2 million chickens in the appropriate hygienic conditions.

 While in the cities the creation of birds still banned, the Executive will develop a plan to warn the inhabitants of towns on the dangers of creating chickens in boxes and let the children play with these animals.

 The Government took measures almost two years after the appearance of the virus in Egypt and to consider that the creation of birds in boxes, in traditional villages, represents the greatest threat to the health of citizens.

 Because despite previous campaigns that forbade any direct contact with live birds, their creation in homes continued, as well as the usual, widespread, to buy live chickens in the market and kill them in the presence of the customer.

 Moreover, the farms lost in the last year $ 116 million, not counting the 300 million in bank loans, which often turn into debt, according to the Ministry of Finance.

 Most of the victims was far women and children, as are those who have more direct contact with the birds, created free or inside their homes.

 The health authorities sacrificed about 12 million birds from farm to prevent the spread of the virus.

http://noticias.uol.com.br/ult...

Life is not so short but that there is always time enough for courtesy. Ralph Waldo Emerson


Summary Map
I've made a summary map of the suspect cases in each governorate which has had reported BF cases since 10/30/07, based upon the table at the top of the diary.  I've emailed it to Dem for posting if he finds it worthwhile.

One note concerning the cases reported in Ad Daqahliyah (Dakahlia) governorate.  I believe the 16 reported on 1/5/08 is a summary of those identified within the governorate up to that point.  The reason I think this is because we have 16 cases documented previous to that date.  I did not include those (reported 1/5/08) in the numbers on the map.


Correction
The above should be"

reported BF cases since 12/30/07


[ Parent ]
EGYPT - T42's latest count
Here's my Egypt list for today.  At this point in time, it's just a "guesstimation" of suspected cases in Egypt -- the reports over the last couple of days have been confusing and chaotic to say the least.

Having said that...

My current count:  5 confirmed cases PLUS 167 (247) suspected cases PLUS 1 suspected death PLUS 87+ negatives = 260+ (340+)

There's a wide range of numbers here because there have been so many reports of suspected cases and negative results that have had no names attached.

Some news blurbs from today:

- "to exceed the number of detainees in different governorates 55 cases of suspicion" [so, currently there are 55+ suspected cases in various governorates]
- one report said there were 27 new suspected cases today
- one report said there were 33 negatives reported today
- about some suspected case from Al Gharbiyah:  "The central laboratories has shown some positive samples taken from them."  Not sure what that means.  ??  Positive rapid flu tests?  Positive first round of H5N1 tests?  No idea.
- the woman who fled the hospital in Sohag is pregnant -- they're not sure where she's from -- she may have just been visiting the area and has returned home [wherever that is]
- one report mentioned that since Nov 2007, 400 samples from people and 6,000 samples from birds have tested negative.

Note that I have removed "old" negatives from the list -- only the newly reported negatives are on the list.  All are in my count, though.

Note, also, that the dates below are news report dates, not admission dates.

SUMMARY OF CONFIRMED AND SUSPECTED CASES IN EGYPT SINCE DEC 25

5 Confirmed cases / 4 deaths

Oula Yunis Ali Mohamed (25F) - d. Dec 25, 2007 -- Beni Haroun, Beni Suef governorate
Attorh Hanim Ibrahim [aka Hanem Atwa Ibrahim] (50F) - d. Dec 31, 2007 -- Shatt `Ezbet el-Lahm, Damietta governorate
Nora Aboul Abbas Mohamed (21/22F) -- Barhim near Minuf city, Al Minufiyah
Fatma Fathi Mohamed (25F) - d. Dec 30, 2007 -- Dikirnis, Ad Daqahliyah governorate
Firdaus Mohamed Hadad (26F) - d. Dec 31, 2007 -- Al Minufiyah governorate

Between 167 - 247 current suspected cases reported since Dec 30 / 1 suspected death (prolly tested neg) / 87+ tested neg (not counted)

Alexandria Governorate (4)

Dec 31 - Faten (23F)

Jan 03 - Mahdi Abdul Aziz Mahmoud Ashour (43M?) - poultry worker - Hospital "Dietetic" Alexandria
Jan 03 - Mohamed Mahmoud Abdel Hameed (20M) - reside Babis

Jan 04 - Anwar Mohammed Abdul Wahid (14)

Aswan (1)

Jan 06 - Muhammad Saad Eddin Maghazi (6M) - Bhmyat Aswan

Beheira Governorate - (20-27)

Dec 30 - Mohamed Khalil Abdul Qawi (40M) - Ezbet "Notes", [Centre Kom Hamada] Kawm Hamadah - admitted to hospital on Dec 28 (Jan 4th report)

Jan 04 - 1 unnamed suspected case admitted Jan 3

Jan 04 - Reza Ibrahim Ibrahim (10M) - Bhmyat Damanhour
Jan 04 - Unnamed woman
Jan 04 - Unnamed woman's daughter (6 months)
Jan 04 - Unnamed - from Blue Dawar village - Alexandria Pathogenesis Hospital
Jan 04 - Unnamed - from Blue Dawar village - Alexandria Pathogenesis Hospital

Jan 05 - Mohamed Fathalla (50F) - sudden rise in temperature, red face and narrow throat - Hospital Dietetic Alexandria

Jan 06 - Rashid Anwarul Abdul Wahid Solomon - student - from village of Apis Azhar rotor, Fever Alexandria Hospital
Jan 06 - Hisham Amr [Omar] Pasha (3M) - Hospital Dietetic Damanhour

Jan 06 - Sarah Khalil Alclav (40F) - homemaker - Pferhash yard Issa

Jan 08 - Mahmoud Abdel-Hamid - from "La spinner branch"(?) [flubergasted]

(Jan 08 - report of 7 unnamed suspected cases)

Jan 09 - unnamed woman
Jan 09 - Mahmoud Tetanus (46) - Fever Damanhour Hospital
Jan 09 - "Tum girls" (5) - village of "Abu knowledgable", Matamir

Jan 09 - Nada Ahmed Hamadeh (2?) - Hospital Dietetic Alexandria
Jan 09 - "Rouen" - Nada Ahmed Hamadeh's sister - Hospital Dietetic Alexandria

Jan 09 - Mahmoud Abdalzafar (21M) - residing in northern La Alihuhristi liberalization
Jan 09 - Abdullah Mohammed Abul-Fotouh (1 1/2) - son Mahmoud Abdalzafar(?) - residing in northern La Alihuhristi liberalization
Jan 09 - Mohammed Shaban Aboul Foutouh (5M) - cousin to Abdullah Mohammed Abul-Fotouh - residing in northern La Alihuhristi liberalization

Beni Suef Governorate (8+ **)

Jan 02 - Anwar Ali Sayyad (25M) [unemployed] from Shaweesh Ahnassa village

Jan 07 - Abdullah (25M) - island city high Beni Suef - Hospital Dietary
Jan 07 - Mr. Anwarul Hassan (30) - untre - Hospital Dietary
Jan 07 - Ghani Gomaa Ghani Halim (?) - Hospital Dietary
Jan 07 - Naglaa Rifai (15) - Hospital Dietary
Jan 07 - Sabir Ahmed Zaki - Hospital Dietary
Jan 07 - Ahmed Mohamed - Hospital Dietary
Jan 07 - "the names of" Muhammad - Hospital Dietary

(Jan 07 - 9 unnamed suspected cases admitted to hospital.  7 listed above.   Likely some of the 10 unnamed reported on Jan 5 [see "Governorate unknown" below].)

Cairo Governorate (? / 1 neg?)

NEG? - Dec 31 - Salah Eddin Mohamed Ali (43M) - d. Dec 29 - Al Amiriyah - teacher - test results on man?/birds? reported to be neg on Jan 2

Jan 06 - Al Ahram reports unnamed negative(s) in Cairo

Dakahlia Governorate (31-51 / 34 neg?)

Jan 03 - Mr. Sadr mediator (40M) - from the Centre for nitrogen
Jan 03 - Fatma Mohammed Saeed (45F) - from Mansoura
Jan 03 - Abdul Rahman Abdul Rahman (9M) - from the village stone pillars
Jan 03 - Imad Bader Abdul Rahman (40) - from the village stone pillars
Jan 03 - Ibrahim Abdel Razek (50M) - from the village of Kom Derby

Jan 04 - Mr. Alusivi doctor(?) - from the village and they Aldnanic - Mansoura Chest Hosp. [same as Mr. Sadr mediator above?]
Jan 04 - Nima Mohammed Mahmoud Abdul Hamid - Mansoura Chest Hosp.
Jan 04 - Abdul Rahman Ali Bader - Mansoura Chest Hosp.
Jan 04 - Abdul Rahman Hamadi (13M) - son of Abdul Rahman Ali Bader - Mansoura Chest Hosp.
Jan 04 - Ibrahim Abdul Aziz [same as Ibrahim Abdel Razek above?]
Jan 04 - Nuha Mohammed Fathi - from the village Ain pomegranate, Bdkrns

Jan 04 - Solomon Solomon Reza (2) - from the village of Gross Bbalkas - Mansoura Chest Hosp. - admitted Jan 3
Jan 04 - Hamdi Mohamed Awad (8) - from the village of Abu vulnerable Bbalkas - Mansoura Chest Hosp. - admitted Jan 3
Jan 04 - Com Mahmoud Rejab (45F) - admitted Jan 3
Jan 04 - Mr. Omar Almqauri (13M) - student from Mansoura Street Abdel Salam - Mansoura Chest Hosp. - admitted Jan 3
Jan 04 - "Faith" (1) - from the village of Aldnabaiq status, Mansoura - Mansoura Chest Hosp. - admitted Jan 3

(Jan 05 - 30+ unnamed suspected cases since Dec 30)

(Jan 06 - 16 new, unnamed cases admitted Jan 5; 5 still under observation, 11 discharged [neg?])

Jan 07 - 5 cases from one family - Manoura Chest [Sadr] Hospital
Jan 07 - 3 cases from one family - Mansour Chest [Sadr] Hospital

(Jan 07 - 14 sample was negative patients are still being held under observation in hospital Mansoura)
(Jan 07 - 8 new unnamed suspected cases -- the 2 families above, 5+3?)

(Jan 09 - report of 6 new unnamed suspected cases)

(Jan 09 - 9 suspected cases discharged after negative test results)

Jan 09 - Abdul Aziz Shimaa (10M) - center Line - Chest Hospital
Jan 09 - Zakia Ibrahim Hamdi (45) - village "swapbody" - Chest Hospital
Jan 09 - Ibrahim Youssef Mohammed - center "address" - Chest Hospital
Jan 09 - Madiha Ibrahim (55)
Jan 09 - Jasmine "just" Mohamed (3F)
Jan 09 - Mohamed Adel Mohamed (1 1/2 M)
Jan 09 - Hanan Mahmoud Aelchenaiti (28F)
Jan 09 - "the quality of" Mr. Mohammed (26)
Jan 09 - Mahmoud Al "qulaity of Mr." (25)
Jan 09 - Abdel-Rahman Mahmoud Abdallah (58)
Jan 09 - Mr. Mahmoud Abdul Wahid (49)
Jan 09 - Fatma Mohammed Eid (45F)
Jan 09 - Safnz Alija (25)
Jan 09 - Mohammed Hamdi Muawwad (18)
Jan 09 - Reza Solomon [listed already?]
Jan 09 - Nora "the blessing of" Muhammad Muhammad Abdul Hamid (35)

Damietta Governorate (11-12 / 4 negs)

Jan 03 - Mohamed Fathi (13) - of Damietta

Jan 04 - 5 unnamed suspected cases admitted Jan 3

Jan 06 - Zeinab Mohamed Muqallad (40F) - Hospital Dietary Damietta - village of Kafr Saad Allostani
Jan 06 - Omar Abdel Mehran (2M) - village of Nasiriyah Martial
Jan 06 - Nur Mohammad Rizk (54) - Minya Damietta

NEG - Jan 06 - Marwa Ashraf (10)
NEG - Jan 06 - Naglaa Mohamed Muqallad (34)
NEG - Jan 06 - Na'amat Mugi (60)
NEG - Jan 06 - Mahmoud Mohamed (10)
(Maybe these 4 negatives were some of the unnamed reported on Jan 4?)

Jan 09 - Zeinab Mohamed Saad (40F) - housewife
Jan 09 - Omar al Mehran (24M)
Jan 09 - Mahmoud Mohamed Nur (54F) - housewife

*A report on the Egyptian government's bf website says that "The government Damitta has taken the brunt of suspected cases."

Fayyoum (1)

Jan 09 - Ms. "Emotions" Razek [aka Awatef Abdel Razek] (30F) - Centre Fayoum - Hospital Fever Fayoum

Gharbiyah/Al Gharbiyah Governorate (16 - 40 / 31 negatives)

Jan 02 - Sara Adel Aboushadi (child) from "My wedding procession" [Abo_ak_i Hospital pathogenesis Zfti]

Jan 06 - Huda Ashmawi (38F) - Hospital Dietetic Mahala

Jan 06 - Ms. Halima Falcon [aka Mitwalli] (59F) - grandmother - from the village of Mahala Alneaoun Center - admitted to Hospital Dietetic Mahala Jan 5
Jan 06 - Nada Mitwalli Ramadan Falcon (2 2/2 F) - granddaughter - from the village of Mahala Alneaoun Center  - admitted to Hospital Dietetic Mahala Jan 5

Jan 08 - Madiha Ibrahim Mustafa (35F) - housewife - Hospital Dietetic Mahala [flubergasted]
Jan 08 - Hamdiya Ahmed (25) - Bhymat Tanta
Jan 08 - Nuran Zine El Abidine (8) - Bhymat Tanta

Jan 08 - 11 unnamed suspected cases reported to be in Hospital Fever Mahala
Jan 08 - 7 unnamed suspected cases reported to be in Hospital Dietetic Tanta
Jan 08 - 2 unnamed suspected cases in al-Azhar hospital
Jan 08 - 4 "new" unnamed suspected case in the district hospital

Jan 09 - Hamada Darwish (45M) - father/husband - village Alsjaih Center Mahala - Hospital Dietetic Mahala
Jan 09 - Iman Musaad Desouki (40F) - mother/wife - village Alsjaih Center Mahala - Hospital Dietetic Mahala
Jan 09 - Fawzi (20) - village Alsjaih Center Mahala - Hospital Dietetic Mahala
Jan 09 - Karim (15) - village Alsjaih Center Mahala - Hospital Dietetic Mahala
Jan 09 -
Mohammed (12) - village Alsjaih Center Mahala - Hospital Dietetic Mahala

Jan 09 - Huda Abd al [aka Hoda Abdel-Moneim] (28) - Hospital Dietetic Mahala
Jan 09 -
Fathiya Bakry - student - Hospital Dietetic Mahala

Jan 09 - Ghada Abdel Ibrahim (30) - housewife - Hospital Dietetic Tanta
Jan 09 - Zeenat Mohammad Rifai (37) - Hospital Dietetic Tanta

Jan 09 -
25 unnamed negatives - 7 from Hospital Fever, Mahala Tant, Kafr Zayat [total number of negative suspected cases "at the level of governance in the last period to 481 since the start of a negative campaign over the past four months till now."]

Giza Governorate (? / ? negatives)

Jan 06 - Al Ahram reports unnamed negative(s) in Giza

Ismailia Governorate (0 / 3 negatives)

Menoufiya/Al Minufiyah Governorate (17)

Dec 30 - Nader Said Babylonian (5M) - ["Al Btanoun"] Al Batanun
Dec 30 - Ahmad Abdul Mohsen [aka Roqayya Ahmed Abdul Mohsen] (6M) - from a village "Tnbdi hamlet" ["Kafr Tunbdi"] in Shibin Al Kawm center [Kafr Tambidi?]

Dec 31 - Abdul Rahman Ibrahim (57M)
Dec 31 - Abed Rabbo (50M?)

Jan 01 - Adel Mohamed Adel - from [Sers Al-Layan] Sirs al Layyanah
Jan 01 - Doaa - daughter of Adel Mohamed Adel

Jan 01 - Mohamed Said Abdul Rahman - from Barhim
Jan 01 - Karim Mohamed Fawzi - from Kafr Sheikh Khalil village in Shibin Al Kawm
Jan 01 - Hamida Abdul Hafiz Rizk - Aboukls [Abu Kullus] village in the Martyrs

Jan 03 - "Hopes" Mr. Sabbagh (30F?) - from the village "Dkma" - Hospital Dietetic Shebin Mound

Jan 06 - Abdullah morning - from Abussnith Balbageor - Hospital Dietetic Shebin Mound
Jan 06 - Naglaa Mohammed Saeedi - from Shebin Mound - Hospital Dietetic Shebin Mound

Jan 08 - Fatma Mohammed Jibril (4F) - resident Bnahih Chamma - Hospital Dietetic

Jan 08 - "Hope" Safwat Lance (25) - Menya Fevers Hospital [flubergasted @ FW]
Jan 08 - Yasmeen Ali Ahmed (4F) - village of Sheikh Hassan - Menya Fevers Hospital [flubergasted @ FW]
Jan 08 - Talaat Fouad (11) [flubergasted @ FW]

Jan 09 - Hanan Ramadan Razek [aka Hanan Ramadan Ali Abdel Razek Erida, aka Hanan Ramadan Mohammed] (25/30? F) - housewife - village of Ain [al-Firouniya, Ashmoun], Hospital Fever Fayoum

*Note that confirmed case Nora Aboul Abbas Mohamed above is also from Barhim, Al Minufiyah.

Minya Governorate (1[+?])

Jan 04 - Zakaria Reham Abdel-Fattah (16F) - resident status La Hqrani place; admitted to Hospital Dietetic Menya

(Jan 07 - report of 15 unnamed suspected cases of in governorates: Qena, Menya, Sohag, Gharbiyah and Beheira.)


Kafr El-Sheikh Governorate (2)

Jan 03 - "Equity" Mohamed Hammouda (32F) - homemaker - village Smjarat Barahmanih was Hdzhma - Hospital Dietetic Kafr El-Sheikh
Jan 03 - Amal Ibrahim Ghraib (1?) - "Equity's" baby? - village Smjarat Barahmanih was Hdzhma - Hospital Dietetic Kafr El-Sheikh

Port Said Governorate (1 / 4 negs)

NEG - Dec 31 - Reza Abdalmugod Abdilkadir (25M) - husband of Radwan - "Satisfaction village in south of Port Said"
NEG - Dec 31 - Radwan - wife of Reza
NEG - Dec 31 - Mohammed (9M) - son of Reza & Radwan
NEG - Dec 31 - Rajab (5M) - son of Reza & Radwan

Jan 09 - Mr. Ali Muhammad Ali - from village of Alfei Wahdan

Qalyubia Governorate (10-11 / ? negatives)

Jan 01 - Safaa Mohamed Abdul Razek - nurse in the health unit - village of Al Alzm belonging to Shibin El Kanatar center [Shabin al Qanatir]

Jan 02 - Mohamed Talaat Mostafa Aboualfdl (3M) - in Banha Fevers - one of the 2 (3?) mentioned below?

Jan 03 - 2 (3?) new sus cases admitted to Banha Hosptial -- no names [also another report of 2 women being admitted to Banha Hospital]

Jan 06 - Sami Mahdi Mahdi - Banha Hospital
Jan 06 - Gamalat Hassan Ibrahim (M?) - from Kafr "gratitude" - Banha Hospital
Jan 06 - Mariam Omran Abossria (F?) - from "stressing" - Banha Hospita

Jan 06 - Al Ahram reports unnamed negative(s) in Qalyubia

Jan 09 - Mr. Ali Badr - student? - Hospital Dietetic Banha
Jan 09 - Nahed - housewife - Hospital Dietetic Banha
Jan 09 - Suad Hassan - housewife - Bhmyat Abbasid

Qena Governorate (15-27)

Jan 03 - Mohamed Khaled Adli - 4 month old child - Qena "Dietary" Hospital - high temperature

Jan 04 - Jasmine Khaled Adli (1 1/2 F) - in hospital Fever Qena - sister of Mohamed above?
Jan 04 - Q. Mustafa Hussein (24F) - mother of Jasmine? - hospital Fever Qena

Jan 06 - Mostafa Amr [Omar] Mustafa (1 1/2 M) - from "the affairs" in the city of Qena - Qena Dietary Hosptial
Jan 06 - Amr [Omar] Khalid Gharib (4 months) - from "the affairs" in the city of Qena - Qena Dietary Hosptial

Jan 07 - Mohammed Khairi (4M) - village of AMR
Jan 07 - Ahmed (3M) - Mohammed Khairi's brother - village of AMR

Jan 07 - Mayada Abdel Fattah Abdel Hearing (13 months) - Hospital Fever Qena
Jan 07 - Fatima Yusuf Ahmed Abu Hassan - student AZHAR - village of Dandara - Hospital Fever Qena
Jan 07 - Hanan Ahmed Mahmoud - housewife - Hospital Fever Qena
Jan 07 - Sadli Sayed Karim Younis [aka SS Muhammad Ali?] (11) - Hospital Fever Qena
Jan 07 - Kenya Abulhasan (10) - Hospital Fever Qena
Jan 07 - Arrows (3) - Hospital Fever Qena
Jan 07 - Mohammed Faris Abdul (12) - Hospital Fever Qena
Jan 07 - Kawther Mohammed Ahmed Mustapha - housewife - from "tunes"

(Jan 07 - report of 7 suspected cases including a child and five women)

(Jan 08 - 5 unnamed cases reported to be in Hospital Dietetic Qena)

Sharkia/Ash Sharqiyah Governorate (11 / 2(+?) neg)

Jan 02 - Samia el-Sayed Awad (55F)
Jan 02 - Menah Mohamed Fathi (3F) - granddaughter of Samia

Jan 02 - Iman Sobhi (25F)
Jan 02 - Mohamed Maher Reda - Iman's son

Jan 03 - Husam Muhammad (4M) - from the village centre Alkhis Abouhmad

Jan 06 - Al Ahram reports unnamed negative(s) in Sharkia

Jan 08 - Mohammed Saeed [aka Mohamed Said Mohamed] (30) - lawyer - Zagazig - Zagazig Pathogenesis Hospital
Jan 08 - Mr. Suad (31) - of "the Abrahamic" - Zagazig Pathogenesis Hospital
Jan 08 - Fatima Mitwalli (38/39F) - from "semen wheat" - Zagazig Pathogenesis Hospital
Jan 08 - one unnamed(?) [report said there were 4 cases]

Jan 09 - Mohamed Abdou (44M) - of "Bio"
Jan 09 - Haitham Khalid Wahbi (5) - from "the Place"

Sohag Governorate (17 - 37 / 8+ negatives)

Jan 05 - Hanan Farouk Abodev (25F) - village children Aizaz, status Sohag - Virus Hospital Sohag
Jan 05 - Hanan Mohammed Khalaf (20/22/45?F) - village Aljbab, status suged [Bsouahin Mkhaltat] - Virus Hospital Sohag

Jan 06 - Hussein Kamal Din (65) - village of Umrah, status Sohag

Jan 06 - dear Abdu al (5) - village Ahawaolh status
Jan 06 - "minimum" (3F) - sister dear Abdu al - village Ahawaolh status
Jan 06 - Zeinab (2F) - sister dear Abdu al - village Ahawaolh status

Jan 06 - Nafisa Ahmed Magali (30) - from "silos tracts" of the West

Jan 06 - Alsoamah Ateeq Morgan [aka "old hopes Morgan" aka Ateeq Morgan] (23F) - from the village of Jeridat of the city centre - bolted from the hospital - reported to have been returned to hospital - reported to be pregnant
Jan 09 - More on Ateeq Morgan - "is not a village resident and perhaps be the guest on one of the villagers and left to her hometown .. still unclear secret escapes from the hospital?"

(Jan 06 - Al Ahram reports unnamed negative(s) in Sohag)

Jan 07 - A report of 9 suspected cases admitted to hospital on Jan 6 -- 7 of them reported above?

Jan 08 - "Mr. Abir" (29) - housewife - from Jishim(?) - Sohag Hospital Fever

Jan 08 - Ahsan Ahmed Abdel-Hafiz - from village "wells Babylon"
Jan 08 - King Mohamed Mohamed Tharwat (1 1/2) - from village "boys Chlol"

Jan 08 - report of 11 unnamed suspected cases currently in Sohag

Jan 09 - Iman Hasem Shafi (20F) - housewife - from city of Babylon - Hospital Dietetic Sohag
Jan 09 - Saudi Abdu Ahmed (7) - from the village Chandare Akarmanih, Sohag - Hospital Dietetic Sohag
Jan 09 - Marwan Mohsin Saad (2) - village off short status, Sohag - Chest Disease Hospital

Jan 09 - Lehman Mr. Muhammad [aka Yaman al-Sayed] (29F) - Hospital Dietetic Sohag
Jan 09 - Ahsan Ahmed Anna [Ehsan Ahmed Abdel Hafiz] (80F) - Hospital Dietetic Sohag

Jan 09 - 8 cases tested negative

Jan 09 - Ahmad Mahfouz (43) - died - reported to have died of cirrhosis of the liver and not bird flu [flubergasted on FW]

**Governorate uncertain (1-10)

Jan 05 - 10 unnamed admitted Jan 4 -- governorate uncertain?

Report says that 16 were admitted in Beni Suef and Sohag on Jan 4. We have 6 named in Sohag. That leaves 10 additional in Beni Suef and/or Sohag.  Edit:  9 appear to have been admitted to Beni Suef, so that leaves one (prolly) unaccounted for.

Proud FAF-er.


That is an enormous and overwhelming list. Suggestion: Divvy by areas?
Maybe those of you actively working on gathering info from Egypt and tabulating it (with a thousand apologies that I am presently working 2 jobs and can't pitch in right now) can divide up the work by governates, so that each has a certain set group of these governates to watch out for, track and tabulate.

Even when a single news release mentions cases from a number of governates, newshounds select out and track just those from their own governates instead of trying to track everything...would that work? Just an idea.

For my own limited part, I am going to try to keep track of suspect victims with the new symptom of Throat involvement...from Indo, Egypt and anywhere else. If it starts to look like an increasing common symptom I'll then post about it and see if the mods want to keep track of that as well.

Sorry I can't be of more help, but all I can say (again and again and again) to you all is THANKS!!!!

Always have a plan B.


[ Parent ]
Theresa32, thanks for this list.
I have recorded 223 cases on the spreadsheet since Dec. 30th. That is not counting the 10 cases mentioned that gave no Governorate location because I didn't know where to assign them. There is also probably some missing from the spreadsheet because when they just gave a number admitted and no names I couldn't be sure I didn't already have them down by theirs name being listed in other articles. I will check my list against yours tomorrow. I have posted over 40 today.

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     


[ Parent ]
Please excuse the typos


Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     


[ Parent ]
Still no good connection
I still don't have my broadband back.  :-(  Supposed to be fixed by tomorrow, so more then.

Thanks, everybody!

Proud FAF-er.


Here's victims/suspects with throat infection symptoms
I don't know if this will paste in proper format for readability, but here goes:

well, it didn't. Let me just summarize: In egypt there are 7 suspect cases since Jan 5 with throat infections as a stated symptom. In Indonesia there are three since Dec 31, including Arlan T who died.  So that's 10 in a little over a week. Granted there may be more, as many of the cases in egypt few if any symptoms are specifically mentioned.

Again, the concern here is the possibility that if this is a new symptom of bf, it MAY indicate a mutation in the virus that allows it to infect higher in the respiratory tract than before.  

If someone can clue me in as to how to make a spreadsheet that will post in here correctly, I would be happy to do so...especially if this trend continues.
       

Always have a plan B.


the inclusion of throat symptoms is not new
AFAIK.  There had been various reports of throat symptoms including bleeding from the throat, in earlier cases.  Hence I don't think it is a new symptom as such.  One needs to be careful when there are ONLY throat symptoms but no respiratory symptoms, but if it was IN ADDITION to respiratory symptoms, then it doesn't in and of itself change the spectrum of possible symptoms IMO.  



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


[ Parent ]
Throat symptoms may not be a harbinger
First, dependant on the ages of the cases with throat symptoms it could just be the a2,3 finding these receptors in the throats of the young ones.

And: If I'm not mistaken, everyone has the a2,3 receptors in their upper respiratory track, just once a certain age threshold has been crossed the predominance switches to a2,6.  Predominance doesn't mean exclusively unless I am totally out in left field on this.  Which, granting, is always a possibility.  

We Won't Know Until We Know.


[ Parent ]
YOu're not out in the left field
In fact, you are remarkably up to date on your science.  ;-)

Here's the paper that talks about that.  Very important findings.

Sialic acid receptor detection in the human respiratory tract: evidence for widespread distribution of potential binding sites for human and avian influenza viruses



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


[ Parent ]
ages of "throat" victims
ages are 3, 8, 17, ? (student) 25, 25, 33, 35, 50, and ??.
So no, it is not just very young children. As a matter of fact only one or two are young enough not to have "outgrown" the imbalance of receptors, so I don't think we can go with this as a reason.

When someone else first mentioned these throat symptoms (I forget who...I think T42 or History Lover)in relation to the 2 restaurant workers in Indo and AT,  they proposed that it was a new symptom. In the case of AT it was both his first symptom and the primary symptom he had for awhile until he got really ill (original diagnosis was laryngitis) I don't recall this symptom being talked about before, but if there were cases there were not this many this close together, I'm pretty sure. That's why I said I was going to track it: if it becomes more and more frequent then it might be a cause for concern. If it goes back to being a rarity, so be it...no problem then, right?

Always have a plan B.


sure, track it if you want ;-)
the most important symptom is still respiratory distress and fever, but as you say, you won't know till you have paid attention to something, whether that something is new and significant, or not.

As for age, the research on this is at a very early stage, and there is only very preliminary indication that kids seem to have more alpha 2,3 receptors in the upper respiratory tract than adults, BUT THEN adults have been found to have alpha 2,3 receptors as well!  We don't know whether that translates significantly to difference in predisposition.  Right now it is one hypothesis, among various other hypotheses.  

And even IF there is increased susceptibility in kids (which I personally suspect is the case but there are many experts who think otherwise), it could be due to other reasons and not necessarily distribution of receptors in the throat.  ie the throat issue may be important, or it may be a red herring.  

(On the subject of red herrings, the recent paper on cone vs umbrella conformations of 2,6 receptors, together with the paper on sialic acid receptors by Nicholls that I quoted earlier, has IMO thrown the receptor theories wide open.)



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


[ Parent ]
Also the cases by age graph on right doesn't support this idea
If true that kids have more Alpha 2,3 receptors than adults, and thus should be more predisposed to bf infection, we should see a significantly higher number of infections in the lower 0-9 age group as compared to young adults and adults. There is not. Might show up better if that child group were subdivided into 0-4 and 5-9, and also shown as a percentage of the overall population rather than straight numbers.

Always have a plan B.

[ Parent ]
again on the age issue
there really isn't enough data for us to make anything more than broad-brush guesses or speculations.  That said, there is an additional issue of severity of disease.  In 1918, for example, even though the attack rate was highest for those aged 5-15, the CFR for that group was lowest.  In general, you often see more severe disease in adolescents and adults for primary viral infections than in young children.  Measles and chickenpox come to mind.  In addition, even just for flu, each virus can have a different pattern of age-specific mortality.  Exactly why, we don't know.  

Mild diseases as we know are much more easily missed.  Again it would be helpful if we have seroprevalence data, but we don't.  If we add up all that we either don't know from basic science, and the lack of data from epidemiology, then the range of possibility is such that we can't draw any meaningful inferences at all.



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


[ Parent ]
Egypt
dated 1-10-08 http://masrawy.com/News/Egypt/...

Detained 21 suspected case of avian influenza injury 1/10/2008 10:22:00 AM

CAIRO - The Ministry of Health on Wednesday they discovered 21 new human case of suspected avian influenza disease has been detained in hospitals dietary Sohag and the lake, Menya and Qena and the West, including six children in the lake, Sohag and Qena.

The tests proved that the death of one case Sohag was because of an injury patient bleeding in the oesophagus and not bird flu.....  


Does bleeding oesophagus rule out BF?
The tests proved that the death of one case Sohag was because of an injury patient bleeding in the oesophagus and not bird flu.....

Does this, in itself, rule out BF?

Aren't we talking about throat symptoms here as well?  

Here's the resouces I ususally go to in trying to see if symptoms match previous cases (which I don't think mention bleeding in the oesophogus, but the use of more technical medical terms may be above my reading level):  

Avian Influenza A (H5N1) Infection in Humans
The Writing Committee of the World Health Organization (WHO) Consultation on Human Influenza A/H5
Sept 29, 2005
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/co...

Avian Influenza A (H5N1) in 10 Patients in Vietnam
March 18, 2004
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/co...

I keep looking for an updated report on clinical featuresand symptoms of human H5N1.  While the Clinical Management guidelines were updated after the international meeting in March 2007 in Turkey, I never did find any updated summary of symptoms.  

ITW(Joel J)
Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear.
- Mark Twain
 


[ Parent ]
esophogeal bleeding is generally
due to something else (liver disease with esophogeal varices, esophagitis, or some other primary problem, as examples).

There's not enough information to comment further.


[ Parent ]
Into The Woods:
I think they are talking about Ahmad Mahfouz, age 43 yrs. old from Sohag who died 1/9/2008. He was admitted on suspicion of bf according to the article I read. They said in another article he had cirrhohos of the liver but they never gave a test results for bf.

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     


[ Parent ]
Into The Woods:
Look at the first article at the top of this thread under the spreadsheet. This is a quote from that article:

Said Dr. Nabil Nasri Bibawi Director hospital dietary Sohag News Agency, the Middle East - that the patient and called on Ahmad Mahfouz - 43 years - Sheikh status of Dar es Salaam Institute of girls had been transferred from the hospital Tuesday digestive system and liver to the hospital in the city of Sohag diets on the basis of suspicion of illness Avian influenza.


Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     


[ Parent ]
This is what made me think of it

http://www.newfluwiki2.com/sho...

ITW(Joel J)
Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear.
- Mark Twain
 


[ Parent ]
From the resources you cited, the only bf symptoms close to a bleeding esophagus or throat are these
Sputum production is variable and sometimes bloody....bleeding from the nose and gums have also been reported early in the course of illness in some patients

and from
Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary

Main Entry: spu•tum
Pronunciation: 'sp(y)üt-&m
Function: noun
Inflected Form: plural spu•ta /-&/
: the matter discharged from the air passages in diseases of the lungs, bronchi, or upper respiratory tract that contains mucus and often pus, blood, fibrin, or bacterial products

Now, the quote from WHO about sputum production was in the section discussing the later progression of the disease, so a logical interpretation is that the source of the blood is from ruptured blood vessels in the lungs,  throat or upper respiratory tract resulting from the disease progression and/or severe coughing, not from a "sore throat". And it is definitely not "esophageal bleeding" as the esophagus is the upper passage of the digestive tract and not the respiratory tract. Further, I don't believe the early symptoms of bleeding from nose and gums would be mistaken for a sore or bleeding throat.

Thus it would appear that the symptom we have been seeing of sore throat and/or laryngitis might indeed be a new one.

Always have a plan B.


[ Parent ]
Egypt
(interesting article/apparently the judges in parliament and the Health Minister are wrangling and the judges are saying the health guys have not acted quickly enough.  Plus, maybe, some argument over turning hospitals badly needed for bird flu into private hospitals--not sure about that one).
1-10-08 http://www.ikhwanonline.com/Ar...

Judge Hisham  
Books - Ihab Khouli

Back Deputy Judge Hisham - a member of the parliamentary bloc of the Muslim Brotherhood and the Deputy Chamber Qus another - the emergence of avian flu cases in Qena to the neglect and inaction by the competent organs in the province, pointing out that the officials not accustomed act only after a disaster, and before that did not notice any warnings Research and ignoring the pleas of the centres concerned.  

The judge - in the question urgent made by the Minister of Health and Minister of Agriculture - that he had previously warned of the spread of the virus in the governorate of Qena, and demanded earlier provision of drugs for inoculations against the disease and confront it in the province, but without Mujibur.  

He asked Attorney on the steps taken by the government - represented in the province - to counter the virus and reduce the spread, especially after the emergence of cases? Where is the role of agencies concerned before the emergence of the virus in the governorate, and what they do to become Qena governorates by the Egyptian hotbeds of the disease?.  

The judge strongly condemned the decision of the Minister of Health to make the 3 hospitals salt only in the province - which each centre private hospital - which makes the preservation center, which includes 11 hospitals rely on 3 of salt only (Hospital Naga Hammadi Hospital Qena, Armant Hospital).

At that the judge questioned whether the infected cases of influenza in areas far from hospitals. This is not burdensome and suffering of the population away from these hospitals? Otherwise, it is wasteful and negligence of hospitals were cashed millions of her? The objective of converting those hospitals salt to the general hospital at the time it may spread the bird flu virus and the need to maintain strongly to those hospitals?.

   


Okieman, great job on the map!! n/t


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Thanks
The problem is that it is such a swiftly changing situation as far as number of cases.  The map is already out of date after 2 days.  Please just consider it a snap shot since there are additional suspect cases added and others reported as negatives.  I will make another map in a few days.

[ Parent ]
Correction needed
I continue to have profound admiration for all the work the trackers do in Indonesia and Egypt.  I would ask, for the sake of newbies that a key to the abbreviations that are used in the charts be listed near them. Ex. d+ = died tested positive etc.

Also I do not think that the died dates are correct since they are in the future.  Unless I am mistaken, time can blur at times. 8^)

To calm the wife buy cases of chocolate, to calm the husband buy cases of booze, and to calm the children...... heck the booze and chocolate should work.


I've added the key, as requested.
The died column has been changed to simply read "Yes" for now until additional information is available.  Thanks.

[ Parent ]
Oremus: My bad! LOL
The mistake on the dates is my fault. When I put the dates like 12/30 on my spreadsheet in the beginning of this outbreak that is exactly what showed. I sent it to Michelle. When she transferred it to the thread it showed up as 12/30/2008. I have made the corrections and it should be OK when she posts the new one I sent her this morning.  I am trying to send her one about every 2 days so you all can keep up with the new additions. Sorry about the mistake.  

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[ Parent ]
Another day; Another meeting of the Supreme Committee

Bird flu continues as they extended to the provinces .. The first injury in Matrouh

  Salem wrote Mitwalli and governorates 10/1/2008

A General Authority for Veterinary Services as the emergence of three wells infected by bird flu, including two Menoufiya Governorate and one case in Matrouh Governorate, in his first appearance of the disease in this remote preserve, amid assurances possible leaks to the infected birds raised by smugglers infected birds.

The daily report of the Commission that the security forces and police and veterinary bodies seized one merchants ducks while he smuggled a quantity of ducks infected from the Apis entrances to the city of Alexandria, where it was forwarded to the Public Prosecutor to investigate his charges of causing virus dissemination and transfer of birds infected with the disease, in violation of the resolutions of the Supreme Committee to combat avian influenza.

(snip)

In a related development, consideration by the Ministry of Agriculture is to introduce a new system for the disbursement of compensation to poultry farms or rural education in the event of a medical devices execute birds within the infected focus, provides for payment of up to 75% of the value of farm prices for the birds in poultry farms or 90% of Value marketing in rural education, with the aim of encouraging citizens to speed the reporting of the incidence of the disease.

So detained hospitals salt, Menya and Qena read and worries in Menoufiya and cows in the Qaliubiya 13 cases of suspected bird flu illness in health Sohag samples revealed the negative situation that died «yesterday» of the disease.

In Qena pointed governor Major General Magdi Ayoub that the detainees are: Mr. Ramadan Wars, el Judge career, a prayer Mohamed Nour Eddin, a year and a half Alhsoyer region, Mustafa Abd Farghali 8 years, the city of Qena, and that he would have been taking samples of them were sent to the central factor Ministry of Health for analysis, and take samples from birds suspected of being infected with home and sent to the Agriculture Ministry's labs for analysis.

In Sohag, Dr. Mohamed Abdel Aal, Undersecretary of the Ministry of Health and Population, that the results of analyses samples of suspected case of bird flu disease and died after hours of detention «yesterday» Hospital Dietetic Sohag is a patient named Ahmad Mahfouz on «43 years» chief at the Institute of girls status House Peace, was negative for the disease, in relation to the death of avian influenza, and that the cause of death was bleeding oesophagus Dualeh result hepatic fibrosis.

In Menoufiya, Dr. Atta Hisham Youssef, Undersecretary of the Ministry of Health, has been detained Fatima Yusuf Abdul: «4 years» from the village leader of the seven Swimming Center Hospital Dietetic read, and Aisha Abdalvdil COLLEGE «37 years», from the village of quintiles status Sadat, hospital salt worries injured on suspicion of avian influenza.

In Menya said Dr. Wajih preferred Preventive Medicine Department director Mallawi health, had been detained by the hope Safwat Anis «25 years old homemaker» and girls Yasmin Ahmad «5 years» from the village of Sheikh Hussein in Mallawi Center Hospital Dietetic Menya on suspicion of the disease injured .

In Western detained Hospital Dietetic Mahala 5 citizens on suspicion sickened, are: HADJI Zayat and expensive, and Ahmad Mahmoud Wahba, Hanadi Abd, Mr. Secretary, all of the Centre Mahala, said Dr. Hamdi Alinveri, director of the hospital, said that samples were obtained from patients for analysis in laboratories Central to the Ministry of Health.

The hospital salt Tanta detain 5 other cases of the villages of Kfar Egizi and Massoud and Sptas, said Dr. Fouad Minshawi, director of the hospital, said that samples were obtained from patients for analysis.

http://www.almasry-alyoum.com/...

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I am confused about this
I understand the part about the man who died yesterday testing neg. for bf. The rest is not making sense to me. Thanks to anyone who can help sort this out.

So detained hospitals salt, Menya and Qena read and worries in Menoufiya and cows in the Qaliubiya 13 cases of suspected bird flu illness in health Sohag samples revealed the negative situation that died «yesterday» of the disease.


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[ Parent ]
Hi Carol, here's my guess...
This is my first shot at interpreting in the Egypt diaries, so the odd translation words are new to me.  My guess is that the paragraph you highlighted is simply intended to be a summary of the location discussions which follow it.  Salt and cows look to be unrelated English words when something else was intended.  The only catch is, when I count the cases discussed later, it looks to be 17 instead of 13...
Qena  3
Menoufiya  2
Menya  2
Western hospital 5
Tanta hospital 5
 Total = 17
An existing patient from Sohag tested negative

[ Parent ]
Now that makes sense.
Thanks Michelle.

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     


[ Parent ]
Did I miss something?
"Adamin instead of Tamiflu to treat new generation of bird flu"  

This is the headline running across the ticker on the Egyptian State Information Service site.

http://birdflu.sis.gov.eg/html...

Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute!


I did a quick google search for Adamin
and found nothing.  What is it?

[ Parent ]
Just a guess...
but I think it's referring to adamantine/amantadine.

Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute!

[ Parent ]
Amantadine? Isn't that almost useless?
I think viruses have cracked that drug's potency world-wide and it is now fairly innocuous.  

For a second there, I thought we had a second magic bullet to help out Tamiflu.  Guess not.    


[ Parent ]
Egypt
1-11-08 : http://www.ahram.org.eg/Index....

44230 year 132 - 2008 No. 3 of the January 11, which is 1429 e Friday  

Working Groups efforts brought fruit infection rates
The drop in the influenza virus in birds and humans

It seems that the efforts of directorates veterinary medicine, agriculture and local administrations and security agencies have begun to bear fruit, as witnessed yesterday retreat rates of influenza infection in birds, as well as decrease in the number of suspects reporting between citizens and after intensify campaigns nests home demolition and closure of shops violating vaccination bird houses and farms.....  


Egypt
1-11-08  http://www.egynews.net/wps/por...

Dr. Abdul Rahman Al Shaheen Media adviser to the Minister of Health and Population and spokesman for the ministry.......He said in an interview for the position of "Egypt News" on the Internet www.egynews.net:

....Dr. Shahin added that the incidence of which monitored between human beings has reached 43 cases including 19 deaths and 24 cases have recovered fully recovered. There have been human cases have been since the days to recover and was eliminated from the hospital already issued Abbasid This was the situation within the 5 cases were on 25/12 until 1/1/2008.....


Pugmom: Am I reading this correctly?
There are a total of 43 people who tested positive since the first case appeared in Egypt? Of those 43 cases, 19 died and 24 recovered? These figures include 5 people who tested positive in the current outbreak?

Dr. Shahin added that the incidence of which monitored between human beings has reached 43 cases including 19 deaths and 24 cases have recovered fully recovered. There have been human cases have been since the days to recover and was eliminated from the hospital already issued Abbasid This was the situation within the 5 cases were on 25/12 until 1/1/2008.....


Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     


[ Parent ]
Hi Carol, I think so too. n/t


[ Parent ]
Total Cases For Egypt - Not Just Recent
http://www.who.int/csr/disease...

ITW(Joel J)
Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear.
- Mark Twain
 


[ Parent ]
Thanks ITW
I thought the article was talking about total cases over time and not just the ones occuring in this latest outbreak.

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     


[ Parent ]
5 Counted if you go back further than 12.25.
It's like translating English into Algebra.  Not sure on the date-range of those 5 but here's the data reported on Egypt by WHO since December 18 (before which it had been stable for some time).

WHO Reports

Country Cases/Deaths (2007) Cases Deaths (Total)/ WHO Doc Date

Egypt  20 / 5 / 38 / 15   December 18
Egypt  21 / 6 / 39 / 16   December 26
Egypt  21 / 6 / 39 / 16   December 27
Egypt  23 / 6 / 41 / 16   December 28
Egypt  25 / 8 / 43 / 18   January 2
Egypt  25 / 9 / 43 / 19   January 3

http://www.who.int/csr/disease...

ITW(Joel J)
Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear.
- Mark Twain
 


[ Parent ]
Egypt
1-11-08 http://www.ikhwanonline.com/Ar...

Egypt is the third country in terms of the spread of avian influenza

Books - Ahmed Ali  

Dr. Hamdi Hassan progress - a member of the parliamentary bloc of the Muslim Brotherhood - a question to the Prime Minister and the Minister of Health; regarding violent return to the bird flu virus and a high number of infected or suspected cases, in addition to the high number of deaths among the infected; making international medical organizations warn of risk that Egypt has become an essential source of the virus causing human infection among humans!!.........

 


Egypt
1-11-08 http://www.rmc-mo.com/rmactuar...

In Damietta avian influenza kills people, but authorities fear more than virus
11/01/2008 - 13:41

Egyptian butcher chickens after he cleans in Damietta (195 north of Cairo) (Khalid Dasuki /)
-- Damietta (Egypt) (AFP) - The latest victims ma'am Atwa avian influenza in Egypt live in a narrow street in the city of Damietta Dusty Nile Delta north of Cairo, but the people living Ezbet meat not ignore any doubt that the real threat came from the government and not HIV "Watch 5 to 1."

The Secretary Ahmad Hosseini (54 years old), owner of the furniture factory works for the son of another victim of the disease "nothing to do with his death the birds they will of God."

Neither does the majority of the population of Ezbet meat considerable interest government campaign against avian influenza, which killed four women finally Egyptian vanished after the virus during the summer months.
On the contrary, the doubts people in the government's intentions seem more fear of bird flu as they see often in the national campaign for the birds additional threat from the authorities which are not credible in a country in which 19 people died as a result of HIV infection.
Hanan said Mr. Farhat (42 years), a mother of four girls came to buy poultry in the market after a few tens of meters from the victim's home "all this talk about the bird flu so that people not only buy frozen poultry and thus benefit businessmen and earn money at our expense" .
The authorities advised people to buy frozen poultry, which can verify whether they are infected with HIV or not.

After two years of the emergence of avian influenza Egypt became one of the countries most affected by HIV in the world.
In spite of the decision of the authorities to ban poultry on the roofs of houses is a long tradition in Egypt are still chickens, ducks and geese nests found in household over most houses Ezbet meat.
According to the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO), Egypt and Indonesia are countries who face the risk of turning to the type virus transmitted among humans because of mixing between the population and birds.

But it is, however, difficult to compel the Egyptians to abandon their domestic poultry as it allows for the vast eating meat is a kind of luxury for the majority of the population because of higher prices and lower incomes.
The Secretary Ahmad Hosseini "I do not believe that the bird flu is real" and adds, "We Bdoajnna care of." He continues "eight frozen poultry does not taste, and when we are dealing not eat Chicks originally."
And a lot of people know the symptoms of the virus when they appear because they fear losing a source of income as their neighbours fear of reprisals if the authorities to execute their poultry.
It is therefore affected by bird flu is often later transferred to hospital while the treatment of the virus in order to be effective must be addressed immediately onset of symptoms.
It was Mr. Abdul Salam (46 years old) of the lack of fear in ruling Ezbet meat died when its neighbour. He said: "As soon as her death slaughtered ducks and chickens, which we Nest immediately."

And the Ministry of Health to caution and expressed regret "for inaction" in taking preventive action to combat the virus because people are convinced that disappeared....  


Skeptical of Govt; Fearful of Revealing Symptoms
http://afp.google.com/article/...

Egypt villagers say poultry innocent in bird flu deaths
3 hours ago

DAMIETTA, Egypt (AFP) - In a dark and muddy alley in the Nile Delta town of Damietta, where Egypt's latest fatal bird flu victim Hanem Atwa Ibrahim lived, inhabitants fear the authorities more than the virus.

"It was the will of God that she died. The chickens had nothing to do with it," says Husseini Ahmed Amine, 54, a furniture maker who employs a son of the dead woman, who was aged 50.

Most of the inhabitants of the Ezbet el-Lahm district pay scant attention to the government's campaign against the H5N1 virus which, after a summer respite, killed four people, all women, in the space of a week over New Year.
...

"Listen to me: all these chickens, they don't kill them, they sell them off or eat them," says Hanane Essayyed Farhat, 42, a mother of four selling her poultry a few dozen metres (yards) from the latest victim's home.

"The state and businessmen profit from bird flu. It's all just about trying to get people to buy frozen chickens. That way they'll make money off our back," she adds.

The authorities recommend eating factory farmed chicken whose origins can be traced. Almost two years since H5N1 appeared in Egypt, the north African country has become one of the most affected countries in the world.
...

"I don't believe in bird flu. We look after our poultry, nothing can happen to them," says Amine. "What's more their factory chicken has no taste, you can't even tell it's chicken."

Many of those infected are fearful of revealing their symptoms as they would lose a source of revenue and they fear the anger of their neighbours throughout the village who may have their flocks slaughtered.

As a result, many sufferers are often hospitalised too late for the medical treatment to work.

Abdessalam Essayyed, 46, is one of Ezbet el-Lahm's few inhabitants to be fearful after his neighbour died.

"I immediately killed our ducks and chickens," he says, pointing to dried blood on the concrete floor in front of his poultry's small cage.

The Health Ministry recently called for heightened vigilance saying that preventative measures were not being implemented against the disease because of "a conviction that the virus has gone."

According to the World Organisation for Animal Health, the highly infectious strain of the H5N1 avian flu virus can be eradicated if it is dealt with effectively in Egypt, Indonesia and Nigeria, where it has become endemic.



ITW(Joel J)
Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear.
- Mark Twain
 


Egypt
(More grumbling over the "experts" and the edict they should eat frozen chicken..)

1-12-08  http://www.almasry-alyoum.com/...

Avian influenza .. The situation is deteriorating, and statements repeated ..

12/1/2008
Surprised many of those officials as well as experts, who meet to study the problem and find a solution, we Muslims from their statements reflect the meaning that they do not deserve the site as officials in connection with the designation as experts, and take as an example the subject of bird flu enters its third year, we prove the truth of what we say, statements made repeated itself, the situation worse and develops. Any problem in the discretionary pillow resolved in two nutshell:

The first concerns the study of consumer behavior and wishes, of getting a live chickens slaughtered in front of him, because of his confidence in theme in terms of power and taste, Vadigajh frozen is not washed well before freezing, Vijmd with everything that is repugnant to him, and hard after disposal Whatever it proceeding from money, so that we are serious in the consumer responds with us, to provide them with the desire and in parallel we know it,

 And also awareness that standing in a shop and live poultry may fall ill, HIV, meaning that the achievement of this first part needed to provide adequate massacres of our production and performance specifications him, and parallel information reaches the consumer.

The second part is a veterinary control and hit a free service for each product, and the social fund up to each house by raising awareness of the pet and substitute for granted and not Alligators its battery.

 


Egypt
(I intially thought it was a repeat, as it mentions escaped suspects, but the date is definitely Jan 12, 2008.)

1-12-08  http://www.almasry-alyoum.com/...

The detention of 10 new cases of suspected bird flu infection in 3 provinces

Nasser Al-Kashef, Abdel soldier and Mohamed Mahmoud Khalil Omar Sheikh Mahmoud Minshawi 12/1/2008  
Continued dietary hospitals in the provinces of new cases of detention on suspicion of being infected with avian influenza yesterday and the day before yesterday, were detained Damietta In 5 cases, while 4 were detained in Beni Suef, and one case in Kulobh, in Menoufiya were countless shops poultry and spare water and electricity in preparation for closure.

Damietta detained in a hospital dietary 5 citizens to suspect they are infected with avian influenza infection Fatima Abdulbaset - 43 years - housewife from the village of tooth, and Khalid Abdu cord - 31 years - the driver of Zarqa, Magda Ibrahim al 40 years housewife from the village of Al-Hourani Martial Center, and Naglaa Izzat Nagar - 35 years - from the village or consent of the Centre Kafr Saad, Mohamed Mahmoud Najm - 13 years - student from Kfar Arabs after the injury very high temperature and congestion in the throat.

Dr Ramadan Desouki Undersecretary of the Ministry of Health said that sampling of the cases and sent to central laboratories at the Ministry of Health to ensure that sickened or not, pointing out that the cases that fall within the hospital is giving anti-HIV properties for a period of 5 days.

In Qaliubiya detained Hospital Dietetic cows Ghneim Sami Abdullah on suspicion of bird flu infection.....

In Beni Suef hospital dietary 4 detained citizens on suspicion sickened are Marwa Isa Abdul Hameed - 8 years - and her brother Abdul Hamid - 5 years - and Islam Bakhit Adam - 14 years - from the Centre Nasser, Mahmoud Hamza Aweys - 55-year assistant police were placed under observation and taking The samples were sent to the central laboratory.

The symptoms of the disease appeared on suspects after a sharp rise in temperature and inflammation of the throat, and stressed the supreme committee to combat the epidemic on preventive measures to curb the disease, and continued to farm veterinary campaigns to immunize birds and poultry and execution of infected cases and the confiscation of cars poultry.

On the other hand, the patient has the security services who escaped from the hospital a few days ago after being detained on suspicion of injury to the hospital to receive treatment.

 


Big wave to Pugmom. Thanks for all your work.
They must have restrained this person by force for treatment. That is good so others are not exposed to them.

On the other hand, the patient has the security services who escaped from the hospital a few days ago after being detained on suspicion of injury to the hospital to receive treatment.


Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     


[ Parent ]
It sounds like all these new suspect cases have throat symptoms!
5 citizens to suspect they are infected with avian influenza infection Fatima Abdulbaset - 43 years - housewife....(snip)...Mohamed Mahmoud Najm - 13 years - student from Kfar Arabs after the injury very high temperature and congestion in the throat.

It could be just the last victim, the 13 yr old student, has "congestion in the throat" but the way it is written could be interpreted as all of those mentioned in the series have that symptom.

The next group even more obviously seems to mean all the victims had the throat symptoms.

In Beni Suef hospital dietary 4 detained citizens on suspicion sickened (snip)

The symptoms of the disease appeared on suspects after a sharp rise in temperature and inflammation of the throat,

I suppose it could be a translation thing where the word that is translated as "throat" actually means lungs or bronchi or something...any ideas on this? Can translators take another look at the egyptian word being translated as throat and see if there are any other meanings?

Always have a plan B.


[ Parent ]
Mary: I found this for you
Pugmom is the expert translator so she will know if the Arabic words for lungs and throat are interchangable. I found these in an Arabic/English dictionary:

???????   lungs
???????  throat
??????? ??????? ??????? Lungs and Respiratory System
?????? ?????   sore throat    

I used this dictionary: http://www.babylon.com/define/...



Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     


[ Parent ]
Sorry, the Arabic words came out ???
If you want them I will need your E-mail address or you can use the link to the Arabic/English dictionary I provided.

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     


[ Parent ]
used your dictionary, possibly a translation problem
There were several arabic words for each body part I looked up (lung, throat, esophagus and bronchi) and all of the words for each of these were different except one.
For Lung, Throat and Esophagus, there was the same word for each as one of the selections. It looks like a colon followed by awl with a dot over the w.  Or the closest approximation in english letters is :aiul  or :awl.  Bronchi is similar but different enough it would not be mistaken  (awjl is the closest approximation, with a diagonal cross line through the j and a dot on top of the l.) Respiratory system has no word close to any of the other words.

So, if the arabic word used in these news articles is :awl (aka :aiul) then it is possible that these are not throat/esophagus symptoms but actually lung symptoms....although sore lungs doesn't make sense.

I would really appreciate it if translators could take a look and see what was the word used for these articles that mention throat involvement, as that might help me figure out whether it truly is the throat or possible lung instead.  Thanks!

Always have a plan B.


[ Parent ]
Egypt
1-12-08: http://massai.ahram.org.eg/Ind...

Assiut lifted (implemented) a state of emergency to cope with bird flu
Assiut Wael Samir

Following the spread of the disease in the governorate of Sohag, suspicion of the existence of more cases of bird flu among humans called Mr. Nabil El Ezaby Assiut Governor to take strict measures against violators with intensifying control at the entrances and exits to prevent the entry of maintaining all types of birds and poultry, especially those coming from Sohag governorate with the prevention of the establishment of nesting Educational Poultry highest rooftops and prevent the sale of live birds in the shops and markets commercial farms and the closure of unlicensed with clothing and masks for workers in this area with the need to develop a plan to confront the disease during this season where the disease is spreading as well as the proofs of communications illusory to train actors on how to address different in the case of its occurrence....

He added that emergency rooms have been equipped to operate 24 hours to receive reports and complaints and inquiries from citizens in addition to continuing the work of maintaining the main operations room.....

With Dr. Ahmed Abdel Moneim, Undersecretary of the Ministry of Health and Population Directorate continued willingness to tackle the disease in case of his appearance or suspicion when he pointed out the training of doctors and nurses on how to deal with the right of suspected cases has been formed group-level Directorate central component of the preventive medical lab and observers health in preparation for any human casualties as processing rooms to isolate all hospitals dietary and chest and support all medicines, protective clothing and inhalers and oxygen cylinders were equipped ambulances to transport any suspected human infection by car each centre and Aeetm used only for that purpose only.  


Egypt
1-12-08  http://www.almasry-alyoum.com/...

Deputy brothers demanding the execution of pigs because of bird flu

Mohamed Al-Zeid 12/1/2008  
Muslim Brotherhood deputy, Dr. Hamdi Hassan demanded that the government take swift action to execute pigs and keep it away from residential areas, pointing out that bird flu can be transmitted from birds to humans only through pigs. He Hassan in the parliamentary question, which was made by the Prime Minister and the Minister of Health, to all the officials know the seriousness of pigs, and yet millions of birds prefer execution to take action without one pig and one against, as he put it.

Hassan asked: Why not continue the information campaign to sensitize the pig breeders and consumers only a few days and then cut off?  He expressed surprise at the statements made by Minister of Irrigation, said that the steps against bird flu were not at the required level.

 


In Damietta avian influenza kills people,
google translation
In Damietta avian influenza kills people, but authorities fear more than virus
 Since day one

 Damietta (Egypt) (AFP) - The latest victims ma'am Atwa avian influenza in Egypt live in a narrow street in the city of Damietta Dusty Nile Delta north of Cairo, but the people living Ezbet meat not ignore any doubt that the real threat came from the government and not from HIV "Watch 5 to 1."

 The Secretary Ahmad Hosseini (54 years old), owner of the furniture factory works for the son of another victim of the disease "nothing to do with his death the birds they will of God."

  Neither does the majority of the population of Ezbet meat considerable interest government campaign against avian influenza, which killed four women finally Egyptian vanished after the virus during the summer months.

 On the contrary, the doubts people in the government's intentions seem more fear of bird flu as they see often in the national campaign for the birds additional threat from the authorities which are not credible in a country in which 19 people died as a result of HIV infection.

 Hanan said Mr. Farhat (42 years), a mother of four girls came to buy poultry in the market after a few tens of meters from the victim's home "all this talk about the bird flu so that people not only buy frozen poultry and thus benefit businessmen and earn money at our expense" .

 The authorities advised people to buy frozen poultry, which can verify whether they are infected with HIV or not.

 After two years of the emergence of avian influenza Egypt became one of the countries most affected by HIV in the world.

 In spite of the decision of the authorities to ban poultry on the roofs of houses is a long tradition in Egypt are still chickens, ducks and geese nests found in household over most houses Ezbet meat.

 According to the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO), Egypt and Indonesia are countries who face the risk of turning to the type virus transmitted among humans because of mixing between the population and birds.

 But it is, however, difficult to compel the Egyptians to abandon their domestic poultry as it allows for the vast eating meat is a kind of luxury for the majority of the population because of higher prices and lower incomes.

The Secretary Ahmad Hosseini "I do not believe that the bird flu is real" and adds, "We Bdoajnna care of."   He continues "eight frozen poultry does not taste, and when we are dealing not eat Chicks originally."

???  And a lot of people know the symptoms of the virus when they appear because they fear losing a source of income as their neighbours fear of reprisals if the authorities to execute their poultry.

 It is therefore affected by bird flu is often later transferred to hospital while the treatment of the virus in order to be effective must be addressed immediately onset of symptoms.

It was Mr. Abdul Salam (46 years old) of the lack of fear in ruling Ezbet meat died when its neighbour.   He said: "As soon as her death slaughtered ducks and chickens, which we Nest immediately."
And the Ministry of Health to caution and expressed regret "for inaction" in taking preventive action to combat the virus because people are convinced that disappeared.

 According to the World Organization for Animal Health that can be eliminated very harsh version of the virus Watch 5 to 1 if effectively combat the virus in Egypt, Indonesia and Nigeria, where endemic.

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Egypt: After Two Weeks The Situation Remains Unclear
If you read the daily reports in the Arabic Press, you'd certainly think there was an epidemic of bird flu occurring in Egypt right now.  Each day brings new reports of dozens of suspected bird flu victims hospitalized around that nation.  The key word here is `suspected'.  

It isn't clear how many (if any) of these new cases are really due to bird flu.  We've not seen a new `confirmed case' in nearly 2 weeks.  

In fact, the Egyptian government has been virtually silent on these new cases, releasing only occasional statements that some of these cases tested negative.  Most are left as question marks.  Neither confirmed or denied.

Since this is the height of the regular flu season, the mere fact that a lot of people have `flu-like' symptoms shouldn't be surprising.  And each year, thousands of people are hospitalized for seasonal flu.

But this all comes fresh on the heels of four deaths, all within a week's time, from the H5N1 virus.   People are understandably nervous, and so are the authorities.

Presumably the Egyptian government knows by now whether they have detected any new H5N1 infections among these cases.   Unfortunately, they aren't being terribly communicative, which has led to speculation that more is happening there than they are willing to admit.
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So, is there really something happening in Egypt?   Are any of these new cases really due to H5N1, or has the local media simply hyped the regular flu season in order to sell papers? I'm afraid there simply isn't enough information available to know yet.

I'm a bit encouraged that we aren't hearing about about a lot of deaths among those hospitalized.  That would seem to indicate a lot of these patients may be suffering from ordinary flu.  

The downside here is that regular flu patients may end up isolated along side bird flu patients, which would offer the virus an opportunity to merge, or `reasssort' with one another.  

For now, all we can do is watch developments in Egypt carefully, and be thankful we have hard working newshounds scouring the Arabic press for tidbits of information.   If something really is happening there, they will almost certainly be the first to bring us that news.

A pity though, that we can't simply get accurate and timely updates from the Egyptian Government.  It shouldn't require a Sherlockian effort by dozens of newshounds to get to the truth. Too much to ask, I suppose.
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Carol@SC/thanx for sharing that n/t


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Pugmom
If you want to E-mail me sites and tell me what translator to use I will help you until Theresa gets back. If you don't have my Email address ask Influntia2 for it.

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Carol@SC/I will email you sometime today/n/t


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Carol@SC
Hi!  Have sent emails to you this am, but am having terrible time with ISP/emails lately.  Will keep trying to reach you.

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OK Pugmom
I haven't received anything from you yet but I will check my E-mail often. Thanks.

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This from an Egyptian Blogger...
I tried to be very neutral when I cover the H5N1 from the official and unofficial media , despite anyone who visits the blog regularly knows that I can be classified as a critic opponent for the regime and its different cabinets especially the current business men and relatives cabinet

Till now the official media from newspapers and TV do not cover the return and spread of H5N1 as they should be , well as usual they are taking the bright side and leaving the dark realistic side of the crisis , defending the cabinet as usual and its irrational , irresponsible decisions regarding the safety of our citizens for example today at last Al-Ahram and El-Akhabr , the biggest two daily newspapers began to publish extensively about H5N1 ,yet their coverage was all about defending the health and agriculture ministries decisions to continue depending on Tamiflu and weak chicken vaccines , they considered the only problem is the domestic chicken and left other parts in the problems including the pigs farms , including the poultry farms and most important thing they considered it as chicken problem not a poultry problem ,other kinds of poultry can be infected with it like Geese and ducks.

Every day now across the country we found of possible human H5N1 cases detained , across the country , from all over the delta which is logic because according to the map the virus is centralized there , already I stopped counting for couple of days because in night and day I found out that here and there citizens are transferred to the hospitals and the media does not give a damn ,taking words from the officials' mouths ,everything is fine ,everything is under control

The outbreak began to spread especially in Upper Egypt after Bani Sawif , we got Qena and Assuit and I am concerned by Assuit because not only it contains poultry but there are many Pigs Farms there .

Already the cabinet is not acting as it should despite their meetings last week and I am not surprised despite the precautions they are taking.

In Giza the selling and transfer of living poultry is banned so is in Cairo , it is not a bad decision , it is good despite its economic impact by the way especially Cairo and Giza are so close from Qalyubia ,the three Governates form together the Great Cairo region Continued.... http://egyptianchronicles.blog...

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     


It's evident there is a lot of frustration. n/t


"I am opposed to any form of tyranny over the mind of man."  Thomas Jefferson

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EGYPT: Poultry sellers ignore live sales ban
despite new bird flu cases
CAIRO, 13 January 2008 (IRIN) - Fifteen new suspected cases of the deadly H5N1 strain of the avian flu virus were reported last week in five governorates in Egypt as government measures to strengthen national pandemic preparedness provoked mixed reactions in Cairo's streets.

According to local media, the latest cases were detected in Qena, Al-Buheira, Al-Gharbia, Al-Minya and Al-Sohag. The patients were admitted to hospital for treatment and surveillance after suffering high temperatures and breathing problems.

In response, the government's Supreme National Committee for Combating Bird Flu met last week to discuss the current outbreak and to implement measures to combat the spread of bird flu.

Amr Kandeel, an official in the Ministry of Health's communicable diseases department, told IRIN that the bird flu committee is focusing on five measures to curb the spread of the virus: active surveillance; public awareness campaigns; support of public health teams in hospitals; stockpiling of flu treatment drug Tamiflu, antiviral medications and vaccination equipment; and the setting up of a telephone hotline to answer public enquiries.

In addition, Kandeel said the Ministry of Agriculture had banned the sale of live birds in Cairo's markets. "Poultry sellers who do not abide by the protection measures will face forced closure of their shops," he said in a phone interview.
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While empty bird cages in many of Cairo's poultry shops reflect the efficiency of the government crackdown, many in the poultry business said they would ignore the ban as they felt the government was over-reacting.
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Nabil Khadar, another poultry seller, was critical of the government's anti-bird flu initiatives. "I have heard about bird flu - it's famous nowadays," he said. "But there is nothing here; this disease comes from outside [the country]. I am not scared because our chicken is good and healthy but the government wants to scare us. Chicken is the cornerstone of our economy; it's cheap and nourishes our families."

Poultry is the main source of food and income for about five million households across Egypt. As such, a large number of people keep and raise domestic poultry, making it difficult to eradicate bird flu completely, the government says.

Two weeks ago, the bird flu committee banned domestic poultry raising altogether and oversaw the culling of all poultry infected with the bird flu virus. It also reinforced an existing ban on transporting poultry from one governorate to another without official inspection and clearance. Despite such restrictions, those in the restaurant business say it is business as usual.

"There is no danger that bird flu could hurt my business," Ahmed Arafa, manager of the Midan Hussein branch of the Gad restaurant chain, said while watching one of his employees scrape chicken meat off a grill to make a shawarma sandwich for a customer. "My customers are not scared. I buy my chicken from the big farms in the countryside where hygiene standards and medical controls are better."
Continued...  http://www.birdflubreakingnews...

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