| Links to part I and part III of this series.
Continuing from part 1, Whither goes the WHO? here are some of the comments made, at the Chatham House conference on Global Health Security, during the session on pandemic flu, in addition to what's already been discussed. Note that these are not exact quotes nor are they comprehensive, just the main points that I glean from my notes.
I will share my thoughts in the comments section. |
Chris Strutt (GSK)
- takes this seriously
- look at mortality figures
- also economic impact
- private sector has a role
- some confidence, more prepared
- still more to be done
David Nabarro (Assistant Secretary-General UN, Senior UN Systems Coordinator for Avian and Human Influenza)
- When Kofi Anan was the UN Secretary General in 2005, confronted by 13 heads of states of ASEAN, who said very concerned, about safety, systems, possibly survival of their countries.
- Political impetus - from ASEAN, US president, and some heads of organizations
- Since then, nothing to change that view
- Malloch-Brown (UK Minister who gave keynote speech) required all agencies to develop plans, COOP, staff safety etc. Score for UK pretty good
- PH issues are best handled when treated as issues for whole of society, rather than just for PH specialists
- countries need to work with communities, private sector, full engagement
- collective rather than selective
- most successful model is when pandemic preparedness is viewed as societal issue for all
- national security as secondary
- feels a measure of confidence
- Lots of unknowns
- Collective learning experience eg beginning of HIV - we missed the chance to stop the pandemic
- Both confidence and trepidation
- Above all, never become complacent, cos that will be the beginning of the end
Ambassador John Lange (former US Special Representative on Avian and Pandemic Influenza)
- Approach that Bush took, recently reinforced by Obama speech to congress 24 Feb - "Use all instruments of power" Not just health
- Involves borders, financial services, 40% absent, staffing for nuclear reactors
- So many issues, all sector of society, all agencies of government
- International coordination - 6 major intl conferences - health and agricultural ministers go but you don't see border, treasury
- Not enough buy-in internationally for multi-sector approach
- for world to prep, need all sectors, individuals and families
- very tricky for how govt approaches this as years go by without pandemic
- one way is all hazards
- HSC 8 major threats - nuclear etc. pandemic flu is one standalone
- Not all governments think in these terms
- One problem (with the all hazards approach) - pandemic flu put into bioterror framework - easier, but affect priority
- Don't know about Obama (whether he will follow the same strategy)
- If you only deal with it as health, it's not enough. Need to cover all areas
- WHO - day to day has to deal with a lot of other issues
- 8 months discussion in USG whether to close borders - answer no but increase screening
- pandemic flu is fundamentally different from HIV and other PH crises, cos it spreads so quickly
- We've had 3-4 years of increased surveillance and training, so we can look at the situation as being more prepared
- but since I'm a FORMER ambassador I can share my personal view
- Am I confident? No
- Do I feel the world is prepared? No
- recent report from House Committee on Homeland Security - getting beyond getting ready for panflu - we should BE ready!!
- Hard to continue to get assistance
- We can clearly do more!
- If we know a pandemic will happen July 4th 2009, we would not be here today. We would be home writing last will and testament. We would be doing a lot other things.
- If we know Bin Ladin is cooking up some virus somewhere with chickens, we will be devoting 10 times what we are devoting now to the problem. (The difficulty is the uncertainty.)
Olga Jonas (Economic Adviser, World Bank):
- Pandemic will affect whole world
- Developing countries more
- World Bank report updated Oct 08 economic impact
- severe - 3 trillion dollars lost, catastrophic
- developing countries will lose a higher % of GDP
- overall, only 12% economic loss due to mortality
- 28% due to illness/absenteeism
- 60% outside disease, due to people's reaction
- reduce travel, reduce consumption, ie 60% due to avoidance behavior
- shows how important preparedness is
- will take years to recover from recession
- mortality less in developed countries
- but 2/3 of absolute economic loss will be in developed countries
- concur with John Lange that we are not as prepared as we should be
- developing countries less prepared
David Heymann (WHO) - in addition to comments already reported in part 1:
- Many different flu viruses in poultry
- Focus on H5 cos of extreme mortality
- This virus is in phase 3
- Phase 4 is continuous transmission in small foci
- Use vaccine and tamiflu for containment
- Coordinate surveillance
- Most important is social distancing, while vaccine being developed
- (Watt interject - this is similar to what WHO does every year, not making something out of nothing. Heymann agrees)
- (on all hazards) If you prepare for natural disaster, you are prepared for other emergencies
- Now WHO more comprehensive
- Try to find disease in animals before they go to humans
Alejandro Thiermann (OIE)
- takes it seriously
- need to focus on prevention
- improving governance, early detection and rapid response
- Virus sharing on animal side going on,
- We share with the human side
- So it's not all bad
Here's a couple of charts from the World Bank report Evaluating the Economic Consequences of Avian Influenza The first one shows how the biggest impact will arise from avoidance behaviors.
The second one shows that in dollar terms, the biggest losses are in high income countries, but as percentage of GDP, economic impact will be greater in developing countries.

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