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Urgent! NBSB Teleconference TOMORROW July 17th

by: SusanC

Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 12:38:20 PM EDT


A timely meeting, addressing H1N1 vaccination strategies in the US.  Received by email 5 minutes ago!!

NBSB = National Biodefense Science Board

SusanC :: Urgent! NBSB Teleconference TOMORROW July 17th
The NBSB will hold an Urgent Public Teleconference on July 17, 2009, from 12:00 P.M. to 2:00 P.M. EDT.

Background: The purpose of the July 17, 2009 teleconference is for the Board to learn about and comment on the findings from the June 18-19, 2009 H1N1 Countermeasures Strategy and Decision Making Forum hosted by the Pandemic Influenza Working Group of the National Biodefense Science Board.  

The public teleconference is being convened to assure that the public is given the opportunity to hear the deliberations and to provide comments on the findings of the proposed report. There will be time for members of the public to present their comments to the Board on this subject matter.

As a Federal Advisory Committee, meetings of the NBSB are open to the public and participation is welcome. Members of the public may listen to the deliberations of the NBSB by calling 1-866-395-4129, referencing the conference ID "ASPR," and then following the directions of the operator. Members of the public participating by telephone will have an opportunity to provide comment during the meeting. Participants should call in 15 minutes prior to the call and will be asked to provide their name, title, and organization.

Registration is not required, however if you are interested in participating in the teleconference, we encourage you to notify the NBSB staff by sending an e-mail to nbsb@hhs.gov with TELECONFERENCE in the subject line. For further information, please visit our Web site at http://www.hhs.gov/aspr/omsph/...  If you have any questions, please contact the NBSB at nbsb@hhs.gov

The following documents were attached.  Since they are not (yet) available on the NBSB site, I've uploaded them to our server, and you can download them from the links here.  Note, from the agenda, that there will be a public comment period AND that the NBSB will be taking a vote after that.  So, if you have an opinion, make your voices heard!!

meeting agenda
H1N1 Countermeasures Strategy and Decision-Making Forum - Detailed Report
H1N1 Countermeasures Strategy and Decision-Making Forum - Executive Report
summary of expert opinions
federal register notice

To facilitate discussion, I've copied and pasted the gist of the text from the summary of expert opinions.  Please refer to the original for accuracy and context.  

1. Should vaccine containing novel H1N1 antigens be distributed and used before completion of extensive immunogenicity studies?

The concern underlying this question is that it is likely that the first wave of epidemic influenza will occur early in the season, perhaps even early in September, as indicated by the continued occurrence of outbreaks of influenza into this summer and past history of influenza pandemics. Ideally, immunogenicity studies would be completed before use of the novel vaccine antigens in licensed vaccines. However, the balancing issue in this case is that the time required to complete such studies is likely to result in unacceptable delay in availability of vaccine. It is conceivable that a one dose immunogenicity study could be conducted, and still allow the vaccines to be distributed in Mid august However, considering that it is already mid July and there are apparently no specific plans in place for such a study, it seems unlikely that immunogenicity data will be available on a timely basis to make a data driven decision by early August. If that is true, the only alternative to delayed release would be to release vaccines in the absence of new immunogenicity data.

In fact, there is extensive evidence that vaccines containing the novel H1N1 antigens should be highly immunogenic. There is extensive population-wide immunity to H1Nl antigens in the United States and worldwide as a result of the continued circulation of H1N1 viruses between 1918 and 1957 and again from 1977 to the present. This immunity is, of course, not fully apparent in the results of hemagglutination inhibition testing of sera from the general population, but will certainly be reflected in the responses induced when vaccine is administered. The evidence that supports this expectation includes the dramatic responses obtained in national clinical trials of influenza A/New Jersey/l976 and A/USSR/l977 in those same years. Some of this data was presented by Dr. Treanor at your meeting. It is notable that just as the A/New Jersey strain was antigenically distinct from the strains that circulated before 1957, the current novel H1N1 strains are similarly distinct from recently circulating H1N1 strains. Consider additionally that H1N1 viruses have been actively circulating in all age groups for the past 30 years, conferring extensive priming to the general population, not just those alive before 1957. It is highly likely that individuals who have been repeatedly exposed to H1N1 viruses in the past will respond well to vaccines containing the novel H1N1 antigens.

Available data provides strong assurance that "standard" doses of current vaccines containing the novel H1N1 antigens will induce adequate antibody responses that confer protection to a degree similar to annual influenza vaccines. For inactivated influenza vaccines, the dose that has been used in recent years is 15 micrograms, which was an amount of antigen adequate for induction of antibodies against the A/New Jersey virus in a high proportion of vaccine recipients. Similarly, standard doses of live attenuated vaccine are very likely to suffice. It should not be necessary to await the completion of immunogenicity studies to begin formulation and distribution of vaccines. If clinical trials demonstrate subsequently that certain individuals will benefit from receipt of second doses of vaccine, recommendations can be appropriately modified.

2. Should the vaccine be targeted to all Americans, or mainly to those at highest risk of infections and complications of infections?

Based on the presentation given by Dr. Robinson, the amount of inactivated vaccine that is expected to be available in September is an amount sufficient to vaccinate a substantial proportion of the groups traditionally considered at  high risk of complications from influenza and critical service providers. Additional doses will be available on a monthly basis thereafter that can be made available for other members of those groups.

The epidemiology of this virus to date suggests that most of the infections that occur will be in children. Targeting vaccine for use in children may significantly impact morbidity and mortality in that age group and reduce disease burden in the general population. Since there will not be sufficient inactivated vaccine in September to vaccinate a high proportion of children and others who should be targeted, emphasis on the use of live attenuated vaccine (single dose rather than two doses of inactivated vaccine) in children should be considered. It was stated at your meeting that availability of syringes for packaging of the live attenuated vaccine was a limiting factor with respect to the number and time of availability of doses to be released. It should be noted that the vaccine can be easily administered as drops, and there is ample evidence of safety and effectiveness when administered by this route. The manufacturer and FDA may be willing to consider amending procedures to permit   formulation of the vaccine to be administered as drops, in order to increase the number of children who could benefit from receipt of this vaccine.

A vaccination program that attempts to deliver vaccine to all Americans will probably conflict with the delivery of vaccines to those groups who need it most; even more so if it is necessary to depend primarily on inactivated vaccine for immunization of children. One approach that has been proposed to address the issue that supply may not be sufficient to meet demand is to add adjuvant to vaccines and use them under Emergency Use Authorization. It is likely that the adjuvant planned will be dose sparing for some or all ofthe inactivated vaccines licensed in the United States. However, to the extent that the use of adjuvanted vaccines requires the completion of immunogenicity studies before distribution of vaccines, their release will probably not be timely with respect to epidemicity in the early fall. It appears to us that the approach that is most likely to result in vaccines being available in the optimum time frame is the use of vaccines that can be released in an expedited fashion on the basis of amendments to existing licenses.

3. What approval or release mechanisms should be used to expedite availability of vaccines?

The availability of tens of millions of doses of inactivated and attenuated vaccines in August, September, October, and November hang in the balance, based on the approach adopted to address this problem. The options to be considered are approval of vaccines through license amendments, approval through new Biologics License Applications (BLAs), and release under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA). In our view, the introduction of a new HIN1 strain into vaccine production is a minor change in manufacturing which should easily lend itself to approval by amendments to existing licenses. A requirement for submission of new BLAs for documentation of the strain change is likely to introduce enormous uncertainty into the approval process and time line. Since approval of license amendments can occur rapidly, there should beno need for use of EUA for release of standard vaccines incorporating the novel H1N1 antigens. Invoking the EUA as soon as possible should facilitate release of products dependent upon process changes tat would not be suitable for approval as license amendments. For example, the use of live attenuated vaccine administered by dropper may be more efficiently addressed using EUA. New licenses will undoubtedly be needed if adjuvanted vaccines are to be distributed as licensed products. Use of the EUA authority could enormously accelerate release of adjuvanted vaccines.

Based on these considerations and the concepts discussed above, we propose the following strategy for release of vaccines containing the novel H1N1 antigens. Standard vaccines should be released through the license amendment approval mechanism as early as possible, formulated in 15ug doses for inactivated vaccines and in standard doses for attenuated vaccine. These vaccines should be distributed so as to reach the largest possible number of individuals in groups identified above. Clinical trials of immunogenicity of standard and adjuvanted vaccines should proceed as rapidly as possible, so that data may be taken into account as the season proceeds. If studies demonstrate that second immunizations are needed for certain groups, recommendations should be made to that effect. If the adjuvant is proven to be dose sparing, and the severity of the epidemic is seen to be so great that the use of adjuvanted vaccine in a massive immunization campaign is needed, the nation should be prepared to proceed expeditiously in that direction.

As stated above, we present only our personal opinions based on our experiences related to influenza vaccination. However, we do believe there is ample evidence to support them, and that consideration of these opinions should help inform policy making.

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All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


live attenuated vaccine
Is this just one big Flu Party?

To calm the wife buy cases of chocolate, to calm the husband buy cases of booze, and to calm the children...... heck the booze and chocolate should work.

that's FluMist from MedImmune
it's a licensed vaccine, in use in the US, especially for kids.  



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


[ Parent ]
Have drops been used to administer flu vaccine before?
I've heard of the oral polio vaccine.  This Wikipedia article has some scary parts, with some batches of vaccine causing polio, and some questions about the monkey kidneys some batches of the vaccine were grown in.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P...

"The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it."  Flannery O'Connor

so the strategy being proposed is this
Based on these considerations and the concepts discussed above, we propose the following strategy for release of vaccines containing the novel H1N1 antigens.

1.) Standard vaccines should be released through the license amendment approval mechanism as early as possible, formulated in 15ug doses for inactivated vaccines and in standard doses for attenuated vaccine.

2.)These vaccines should be distributed so as to reach the largest possible number of individuals in groups identified above.

3.) Clinical trials of immunogenicity of standard and adjuvanted vaccines should proceed as rapidly as possible, so that data may be taken into account as the season proceeds.

4.) If studies demonstrate that second immunizations are needed for certain groups, recommendations should be made to that effect.

5.) If the adjuvant is proven to be dose sparing, and the severity of the epidemic is seen to be so great that the use of adjuvanted vaccine in a massive immunization campaign is needed, the nation should be prepared to proceed expeditiously in that direction.

A bit of "hedging your bets" I guess.  Approve the "regular" H1N1 flu quickly, wait for some studies of dose sparing only on the adjuvanted vaccine to see if it really will be does sparing, and only use adjuvant if it is dose sparing AND if the pandemic severity is "great".

GetPandemicReady.org - non commerical website with practical ways for families to prepare.


What got me thinking and worrying even more about this
was a Vaccination Planning Q&A the State of New Mexico put out a few weeks ago.

http://www.health.state.nm.us/...

Q18. Will two doses of vaccine be required?
A18. This will not be known until the late summer- early fall, once clinical trials are completed. For planning purposes, planners should assume that two doses will
be needed for persons under 50.

Q19. What will be the recommended interval between the first and second dose?
A19. This will not be known until clinical trials are complete. For planning purposes, planners should assume 21-28 days between the first and second vaccination.

Q20. How much Thimerosal-free vaccine will be available?
A20. It is anticipated that enough thimerosal-free vaccine in pre-loaded syringes or nasal sprayers will be available for young children and pregnant women.

Q22. Will it be necessary for the first and second dose need to be the same product?

A22. Ideally, first and second doses would be from the same product. However, practical considerations may make this difficult to implement so it would be preferable if products could be used interchangeably. A definitive answer on this issue will not be available until the late summer - early fall once clinical trials are conducted.

Q24. Will vaccine be adjuvanted?
A24. This may not be known until early fall, once clinical trials are completed.

Q25. If vaccine is adjuvanted, how will it be formulated?
A25. Formulation will vary by provider. For Novartis, vaccine may be preformulated with adjuvant. For CSL, GSK and Sanofi Pasteur, mixing of vaccine and adjuvant at the site of administration will be necessary. Specific
information on storage requirements and procedures for mixing vaccine and adjuvant will be provided by CDC. Medimmune vaccine will not be adjuvanted.

Comment: Given the 3-4 week period between first and second doses, it seems to me that the chance of receiving vaccines from two different providers is likely. If that's the case, will they be doing safety-testing for that scenario? Especially if the vaccine is adjuvanted, this seems (given my almost total lack of knowledge in this subject)scary. Would love to hear this isn't a concern.  


I think you should look to the Feds
for accurate information on which vaccine and dose schedule.  States are only making immunization plans which, rightly, should cover various scenarios.  But they do not make any decisions or recommendations as to how many doses and which ones to use, in general.

I would, with my limited non-expert understanding, agree with the opinions expressed in the report for the NBSB, that most people probably have some immunity to the H1N1 subtype as a whole, and that one dose is probably sufficient, especially since this virus is reasonably mild and survivable.  If, as they do clinical trials, they discover that the vaccine is not immunogenic enough, they may decide to give booster doses to certain subgroups.  

I wouldn't worry about getting vaccines from different providers.  I'd say, the safety of each dose/product is most unlikely to be affected by other doses that you have taken before, especially if none of the doses are adjuvanted.

I'm not putting in that last qualifier on adjuvants just to be perverse.  The point is, we really have very little idea about the short, medium, or longer term effects of these novel adjuvants on people with robust immune responses.  So if the US decides to give regular unadjuvanted vaccines as the option of first choice, it will, among other things, greatly simplify subsequent assessment of any reported or suspected adverse events.  There's enough experience with the licensed vaccines such that any adverse events are likely be a matter of degree, and won't differ enormously from normal seasonal flu experience.  At least that is my, as I said non-expert, speculation,



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


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Key Assumptions, Goals & Principles, and Implications
Key Assumptions, Goals and Principles, and Implications - H1N1 Vaccine

These items are listed starting on pages 4 and 5 of the Executive Report and help to define and clarify the recommendations.

A couple of excerpts from the Executive Report linked above follow.

(Format Note: I have evidently angered the Soapbox Quote God in some way. It will not accept my offering of quotes after numerous reverential and revised offerings. Such is life.) Each paragraph below is a quote, not necessarily sequential or complete.  Quotes:

A second wave is likely to occur, as soon as fall 2009. Best estimates suggest that infection rates will be 2-3 times higher than expected with seasonal influenza. The second wave could peak in October, but we must anticipate onset as early as September.

It is crucial for government officials to iteratively check that assumptions remain correct and revise assumptions and strategy as additional data become available.
Having vaccine only after the peak may be worse than having no vaccine at all: it incurs all of the risk and cost with no potential benefit.

Safety of the vaccines, both real and perceived, will shape risk-benefit calculations and acceptance. This will be true for both public health officials applying a collective perspective, and for individuals deciding whether to be vaccinated.

Decisions about vaccine formulation must be made rapidly on the basis of available data. Strategies can and should be changed as more data become available, but we cannot wait beyond mid-August if vaccine is to be in supply by mid-September.

The Biomedical Advanced Research & Development Authority (BARDA) strategic goal of being able to produce vaccine for all 300 million Americans within 6 months of declaration of a pandemic is an appropriate goal for capacity. However, it is not the same as the strategic goal for dealing with a specific pandemic.

HHS should remind States and local health departments that durable recordkeeping of who receives the vaccine (preferably in electronic format) is an essential component of local implementation plans.

Epidemiologic data, modeling, and early evidence of vaccine safety and immunogenicity will inform ACIP recommendations, but it will be necessary to make decisions before all of the data are available. Modifications will be made if indicated by evolving knowledge.

If novel H1N1 becomes widely oseltamivir resistant within the next few months, healthcare providers will have few treatment options. This is likely to lead to increased morbidity and mortality.

Treatments that could modify the immunologic cascade and clinical impact of influenza are also attractive. At present, there do not appear to be any such attractive candidates for immunologic or anti-inflammatory treatment, with the possible exception of celecoxib.

From Executive Report linked above.

ITW(Joel J)
Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear.
- Mark Twain
 


the detailed report
which is (almost) a transcript of a 2-day meeting, with the first day devoted entirely to vaccine issues, is turning out to be highly informative.  Highly recommended, and not just for those technically inclined.



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


is anyone listening today?
I came in late, am wondering who is speaking now.

GetPandemicReady.org - non commerical website with practical ways for families to prepare.

vaccine comments
Robin Robinson:

(I missed a lot)

, and all disclaimers, I am just trying to live blog, I might misunderstand stuff, the transcripts will be out eventually....

adjuvants:  producing as anticipated, no changes.

119 million doses of that

if we wanted to have product available in Sept. 15 we would have to make decision to start filling the orders in August.

Q and A

18 million/193 million -- assuming 15 mg

at the august 15th point youd have several 10s of milions of dose?

app. 60 to 80 million doses if we ere to go that way.

progress of clinical studies (Pavia)

Robinson:

A)  clinical studies starting next week if all goes well.

two sets of studies -- immunogenicty to inform foruumlation (with/no adjuvant)

sefaty/immunigenicity studies.

Starting the same time.  Will have data back from smaller studies.

immunigenicity after 1 dose, after 2 does,etc.

came directly out of board meeting last month.  Move forward aggressively with that (testing)

Q:  Sense of timeline, when we will know if 15 mg dose is effective?

A:  by mid-september

Q:  so you won't know that until after the Aug 15th decision point?

A: correct



GetPandemicReady.org - non commerical website with practical ways for families to prepare.


Andy Pavia
reading out the executive summary



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


sorry I coudln't live blog this
I listened to it all but my head is just swimming from all the variables.

GetPandemicReady.org - non commerical website with practical ways for families to prepare.

know what you mean
still listening tho

[ Parent ]
default vax is non-adjuvanted
it sounds like they are doing the proforma logistical planning to package up 15 ug/ 1/2 mil dose NON-ADJUVANTED

for now with the proviso that if clinical data indicates a need (immunogenicity I think)  


public questions now
listening

NBSB
Found a summary from WebMD. Sort of sums it up.

http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-...


So the USA is going the way of the UK in terms of...
skipping all but the most perfunctionary of safety tests.

"Pandemic swine flu vaccine should be fast-tracked, with vaccinations starting in mid-September -- soon after schools open...Getting swine flu vaccine by September means skipping all but the most preliminary clinical tests of vaccine safety and effectiveness..."



[ Parent ]
And to be fair...
"Why deploy a vaccine that hasn't completed safety and efficacy testing? Because we already have a lot of experience with similar vaccines, concluded the NBSB flu vaccine working group, led by University of Utah flu expert Andrew Pavia, MD.

Pandemic swine flu is a type A, H1N1 flu virus. For decades, a type A H1N1 vaccine has been part of the regular seasonal flu vaccine, and the new vaccine is made exactly the same way."


[ Parent ]
not really
They are using unadjuvanted vaccines, formulated in the same way as the ones already licensed for seasonal flu use.  The only difference lies in determining the immunogenicity (and therefore dosage).  Preliminary immunogenicity data can be available fairly quickly, so if there are minor variations in dosage, that can be accommodated within the same formulation of 15ug per 0.5ml.

Any differences in safety between these and seasonal vaccines would IMO be relatively minor, not more than what one would expect from different batches of vaccines from season to season.  The upper limit of safety concerns (ie the worst case scenario that I can think of) would be similarity to 1976.  But even there, if you look at 1976, depending on different reports, something like 25-32 people died from GBS.  There are already way more than that in H1N1 deaths this year.  

The risk-benefits have to be weighed against the pandemic.  In 1976, a pandemic didn't happen, so a vaccine that caused 30+ deaths was not acceptable.  In 2009, we already have more deaths than that.  

If this was H5N1, with double digit CFR, then it would be even more important to roll out vaccines as quickly as possible, and if the only option for dose sparing to get enough vaccines to everyone, is by the use of adjuvants, then the risks of the pandemic would outweigh the risk of adjuvants.  But since this is not H5, the decision not to use adjuvants, at least in the first instance until much more data is available, is IMHO a very wise one.



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


[ Parent ]
just to add
The immunogenicity of an unadjuvanted vaccine is much more predictable than when you use adjuvants.  The risk of excessive immune response is minor, the bigger question is effeciveness.  It's different for adjuvanted vaccines: they are very likely to be effective, but they are also MUCH more likely to cause severe adverse reactions the vaccine is too immunogenic.  

Hence why the EU position is so dangerous - I read from one of the presentations in the NBSB detailed report, the GSK rep said the EU has not decided whether they will or will not require clinical trial data before licensure.  I call that a bit of good news on the horizon.

btw every country faces the same decisions.  The Canadians, for example, are also buying the GSK vaccine.  I haven't tried to track down their decision making process, whether they will actually go ahead and use the adjuvanted version.  (The vaccine and adjuvant are supplied in separate vials, so it's possible to buy the GSK vaccine and still not go the adjuvanted route.)



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


[ Parent ]
public questions
enough syringes?

are talking to manufacturers now and see no problem

? re vax study update - re: kids

there will be pediatric studies done

already planned?

ANS:

dpends on manufacturer - but will sequence after adult studies

? tiers and recs?  will critical and HCWs be first priority?

ANS:

those with greatest disease risk, social disruption not expected as per some analysis (HHS)

HHS - no changes in priority groups, just changing some of the priorities in re: clinical data now

? re: HCW - exposure management, vax, dx testing, anti-virus meds

? any prov for hosp to get confirmatory testng data when state s are limiting data release?

ANS:

CDC encourages data release for surveillance


My notes aren't very clear, but here's some of what I got:
Getting a low yield of inactivated virus, about what they expected.
Yield from live attenuated virus is worse, not usable.
Flumist gets a yield "2 logs higher" than usual {whatever that means}.  Only limit on quantity is the supply of sprayers.
---
They'll recommend getting more zanamivir and pediatric Tamiflu, 50/50 [would be ideal but not this year- ?]

For the severely ill, get an EUA [waiver?] to use paramivir/peramivir in intravenous form [may not be done this year- ?]
---
Plans are to vax kids at school.  [I think -? It wasn't discussed, just mentioned]
---
They agreed to start bottling the vax as soon as it's made, because they can't predict when the next wave will start (it could be early, like Sept. 1), and they can always revise the dosing instructions after results of testing are in.  It will take 30 days from decision to finished bottles.  {My interpretation: It seems more prudent to assume the dosing will work like that for seasonal flu and get a supply ready to use, than to wait to bottle it up until results are in, and possibly be too late.}
---
The first question from the public was a request sent by email.  The writer was a mom who had read about problems with adjuvants such as MF59 and didn't want her children to receive an adjuvanted vaccine, because they already have some medical problems and shouldn't be exposed to a substance that might make their physical conditions worse.  She wanted a choice of vaccines so she could choose unadjuvanted.  A wonderful reasoned and calm message.
---
A question by phone: the current priorities for vaccinations are by age; what happened to the critical infrastructure and HCWs as priorities?
Answer:  Vaccination is for those at greatest risk of disease.  It seems unlikely that this flu will lead to social disruption...[recommendations are made by ACIP and CDC, this group only makes assumptions about target groups -missed something here]
---
Data should be collected about health care workers' exposure.  Confirmatory tests should be done.  HCWs are human capital.  [this may be monitored by CDC and NVAC?-?]
---
Some wanted to discuss the use (strategic use) of antivirals.  It's complicated and those who know a lot about it weren't there.  Some other time, or by other groups....?
---
Things are moving fast, so they should meet every month.  Not enough, schedule a (phone) meeting every 2 weeks, and if there's no business, they can cancel it.

"The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it."  Flannery O'Connor


2 more relevant meetings coming up
FDA Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee Meeting, July 23, 2009

Agenda

On July 23, 2009, the Committee will discuss clinical trials to support use of vaccines against the 2009 H1N1 influenza virus.  

meeting details

Download meeting agenda and briefing documents



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CDC Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP)
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/re...

special ACIP meeting on Novel Influenza A (H1N1)
Wednesday, July 29, 2009  8:00a.m. - 3:00p.m

agenda

meeting registration



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brief ACIP agenda
Introduction and goals of the meeting

Novel influenza A(H1N1) epidemiology in the United States

Novel influenza A(H1N1) epidemiology - global

Vaccine development and formulations

FDA/VRBPAC update

Implementation planning

Communications strategy

Public Comment

ACIP Influenza Work Group recommendations
 Information, Discussion, Vote



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brief FDA agenda
(go to above links for full version)

FDA Introduction

Epidemiology of Newly Emerged H1N1 Influenza Virus/Strain Selection

Overview of DHHS Procurement of H1N1 Influenza Vaccines & Adjuvants

Manufacturing Considerations
FDA Regulatory Approaches & Activities to Support Use of H1N1 Vaccine

Overview of Clinical Studies by NIAID/NIH

Post Marketing Safety Monitoring During an Influenza Pandemic/Post Marketing Collection of Effectiveness Data

Manufacturers Comments on Clinical Trials with H1N1 Vaccine

Open Public Hearing

Presentation of Issues to be Discussed

Committee Discussion




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[ Parent ]
Two NVAC Teleconferences on H1N1
There seems to be a flurry of meetings to make the expedited deadlines discussed above.  In addition to the two you mentioned, there are 2 National Vaccine Advisory Committee (NVAC) teleconferences comming up.

The National Vaccine Advisory Committee (NVAC)
Teleconference Meeting Agenda: Novel Influenza A (H1N1) Outbreak and Response
Monday, July 27, 2009, 3-5pm EDT
Monday, August  24, 2009, 3-5pm EDT
http://www.hhs.gov/nvpo/nvac/    for more info and the agenda for the July 27th meeting.

To join the teleconference, call 1-888-677-1385, passcode ``NVAC.''  There is a process for the public to attend face to face meetings, but I am not sure if it applies to teleconferences.  They state, "Any individual who wishes to attend the meeting and/or participate in the public comment session should e-mail nvpo@hhs.gov or call 202-690-5566.".  I sent an e-mail just in case.



[ Parent ]
Gosh SusanC
I am floored by all your work. Thanks so much for your explanations and keeping us in the loop. I save alot of what you write so I can then explain it to the people in my life. Now I will be able to explain the vaccines when it comes time for people to make choices.

that's the idea
Now I will be able to explain the vaccines when it comes time for people to make choices.

Empowering people to make their own choices.  Makes my work worthwhile.  ;-)  And thanks for your encouragement.



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[ Parent ]
you are very welcome..
 :-) and truly are making a difference, by using your particular skills and knowledge, in the precise way you had hoped.

[ Parent ]
FDA meeting material
including slides, for July 23 meeting, now available online

http://www.fda.gov/AdvisoryCom...

transcripts not available yet.



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


meeting summary and transcripts
of this July 17th teleconference are now available here http://www.hhs.gov/aspr/confer...



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


a lot of information from the meeting transcript
has already been discussed on various threads, at least with regards to vaccines.  The antivirals and diagnostics issues are more technical and less controversial, from the public safety and ethical POV.  Anyone who wants to know more can read the transcripts at the above link.

Here I just want to post the 'public comment' sent by email to the NBSB that day:

"Dear NBSB: I am not able to phone in on July 17th, but I would like to put forward my deep concerns about an adjuvant being used in the flu vaccines being made to counteract the novel H1N1 flu virus. I am a homemaker. I have two sons, both with allergies, and history of asthma. I am very, very worried about the novel H1N1 virus, but I am even more worried about the potential use of the MF59 squaline vaccine adjuvant. I think MF59 could cause autoimmune diseases to develop in my sons.

I do understand that the vaccine production is challenging, and that the current production system is having problems getting enough antigen produced. Even so, I hope people will be informed as to which vaccines have adjuvants and which do not. Please let us have a choice in the matter.

I would definitely have my sons get a flu vaccine this fall, if I knew it had no adjuvants. If it comes with adjuvants, particularly if the adjuvant is MF59, I would advise my sons to avoid the vaccine. I would also advice my community about my deep concerns. In these challenging times, we are all hoping that the upcoming flu season is mild. It may not be, but please don't have us go from the frying pan to the fire by putting out vaccine that harms us long-term. Everything that I have read about MF59 makes me think the numbers of reactions to it would far out number the reactions that occurred in the 1976 flu vaccination program. Please protect us. Ellen Rice, Olympia, Washington.





All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


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