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The unforgiving arithmetic of pandemic

by: Bronco Bill

Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 14:49:23 PM EDT


This piece was forwarded to me by the "Editor-in-Chief" at FluTrackers, Florida1. It was posted by St. Michael, a member of the site. Hat tip to St. Michael (Brian J. Kopp, DPM).

Dr. David Fedson, is a vaccine expert at Aventis Pasteur MSD in Lyon, France.

This is not meant to further the reach of any church or religious organization. It is simply posted to point out that there are major inadequacies in health care in developing nations.
Please do not comment in regards to it's origins. Thank you.

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Dr David Fedson on aiding developing countries in the treatment of pandemic diseases

"The world situation, as the news in recent months amply demonstrates, continues to present serious problems and the "scandal' of glaring inequalities which have endured despite past efforts". These were the words of Pope Benedict XVI during the General Audience Catechesis outlining the fundamental messages of his recently released Encyclical Letter, Caritas in Veritate (see p. 11).

Bronco Bill :: The unforgiving arithmetic of pandemic
When viewing the current world situation from a Catholic perspective, the pursuit of social justice within all sectors is essential, as the Holy Father clearly expresses in his social Encyclical. This constitutes the task of securing both the physical and spiritual well-being of every human being.

For this to happen the support of the governmental, medical and philanthropic communities of first world nations is urgently needed. Thus a broader vision concerning the challenges facing the world's less developed areas is crucial. This view was also expressed at the recent G8 Summit.

In the spirit of this same kind of solidarity, Brian J. Kopp, DPM, spoke with David Fedson, MD, on 3 July about the current H1N1 swine flu pandemic and the prospects for equitable treatment alternatives in developing countries. Indeed, a testament to the importance of this particular issue was President Obama's participation from Italy via telephone link in the Influenza Preparedness Summit held at the National Institutes of Health on 9 July.

Dr. Fedson is a retired American physician living in France. He has long worked on the epidemiology of influenza and influenza vaccination, first as a Professor of Medicine at the University of Virginia and later as Director of Medical Affairs for Aventis Pasteur MSD. He has served on several American and World Health Organization (WHO) committees on influenza immunization, and was instrumental in establishing the Influenza Vaccine Supply (IVS) International Task Force and the Macroepidemiology of Influenza Vaccination (MIV) Study Group. He clearly knows the influenza vaccine industry from the inside. He also knows that the arithmetic for a pandemic is simple: you can only treat the victims of a pandemic if effective vaccines and medications are widely available. For 90% of the world's population, this won't be the case.

With the current swine H1N1 pandemic influenza virus, as with the H5N1 avian flu and 1918 pandemic viruses, deaths have been prominent among the 15- to 45-year old adults. These deaths have been associated with a severe immune reaction, often called a "cytokine storm." For more than five years, Fedson has been calling for urgent and sharply focused research to determine whether drugs that reduce inflammation or modify the host response the way that the body responds to infection or injury could be used to manage the pandemic. Focusing on inexpensive generic drugs that are readily available, even in developing countries, could address the inequity already being seen, and could save millions of lives in the current and in future pandemics.

Roche announced on 2 July that they would now sell their Tamiflu to third world nations at a reduced price. Is Tamiflu still a reliable treatment option?

Tamiflu resistant swine flu viruses have already been isolated in Denmark, Japan, and Hong Kong, and the virus that was isolated in Hong Kong came from a woman who had not taken Tamiflu. Knowing that seasonal H1N1 viruses are now almost completely resistant to Tamiflu, we should expect Tamiflu-resistant swine flu viruses to appear sooner or later. It's just a matter of time, and we're seeing it already. Yet if we're fortunate and this doesn't happen, we will still have problems. Current government stockpiles of Tamiflu in "have not' countries (countries that don't produce influenza vaccines) would be sufficient to treat only 1% of the people who live in these countries. Roche has said publicly that its capacity for producing courses of Tamiflu treatment is 400 million doses per year. That's it; they can't go beyond that.

Has vaccine production capacity improved in the last few years?

No, the situation has not changed a great deal. I keep going back to the arithmetic. Two years ago it was estimated that within 9 months of the emergence of the pandemic virus, all of the world's influenza vaccine companies could produce enough doses of a new pandemic vaccine to vaccinate with two doses approximately 750 million people. More recently, a report sponsored by the WHO estimated that 6 months after the emergence of a new pandemic virus, the companies could produce 860 million doses of vaccine. These numbers are similar to the number of people living in the nine countries that produce almost all of the world's seasonal influenza vaccines.

If you're talking only about the US and want to vaccinate everyone, you will need 300 million doses. If you need two doses per person, you'll need 600 million doses and you're not going to get 600 million doses right away unless you have an antigen sparing formulation. This requires adding an adjuvant, a chemical that boosts the immune response and allows companies to decrease the amount of virus in each dose. However, US regulatory authorities are concerned about the safety of adjuvanted vaccines. As long as the virus doesn't get more virulent and the case fatality rate among non vaccinated individuals remains very low, the social and political impact of the pandemic will be tolerable; although a huge number of infections will occur, 99.5% of those infected will survive. The choice between an adjuvanted or non adjuvanted vaccine will determine whether companies produce more or fewer doses of vaccine. Erring on the side of caution will mean that developing countries will have even less chance of obtaining supplies of pandemic vaccines.

Are there any plans to provide vaccines to developing countries?

Currently, there is no logistical plan for distributing supplies of pandemic vaccines to the "have not' countries that will not be able to produce them. These countries are home to approximately 88% of the world's population.

Whether the political leaders of the nine countries that produce almost all of the world's influenza vaccines will take an active role in the allocation of H1N1 vaccines supplies is an important question, at least in my view. Given the desire of political leaders never to make decisions unless they are absolutely unavoidable, they may view the H1N1 pandemic as being no more severe in its consequences for individuals than a seasonal H1N1 outbreak. Therefore, they may decide they don't need to take an active role in deciding where doses of vaccine will be distributed, at least after they have satisfied their domestic needs. Yet we must keep in mind that whatever WHO, companies and governments do for a mild H1N1 pandemic will establish the precedents for managing vaccine production, licensing and distribution for a more severe H5N1 pandemic. For me, this is the most fascinating aspect of what we are currently seeing. It is also the most unpredictable and consequently the most worrisome.

If there will be inadequate supplies of vaccines and Tamiflu, what other options are being pursued?

Since 2004 I have tried to persuade government agencies and foundations in the US and Europe as well as the WHO to convene one or more workshops that would bring together 25-30 scientists who work with animal models of influenza, sepsis and multi-organ failure. They would be asked to review the scientific rationale for using agents that modify the host response. The agents they should consider most strongly are those that are now produced as inexpensive generics and that are widely available in developing countries. Statins, fibrates and glitazones are, in my view, prime candidates. No one has been interested in this proposal.

The generic agents I talk about affect the host response, and this is something that, with the exception of the immune response, influenza virologists know little about. We must enlist the support of scientists in other fields sepsis, critical care, cardiovascular and pulmonary diseases, metabolic disorders and mitochondrial function. They must tell influenza scientists what they know about the host response to infection, and how it might be useful to them in their research.

I'm worried that the H1N1 virus could get worse, that it could develop the virulence of the 1918 pandemic virus, or possibly combine with an H5N1 avian flu virus to give us a monster virus. Each of these developments is possible. Now if they're possible, we could spend perhaps 10 to 20 million dollars and get 90% of the answers we need to determine whether these generic agents could save lives. Is it worth organizing the research in such a way that we could quickly get the answers needed to manage a global pandemic? That's the big question. Why don't we do it?

Where, then, would efforts ideally be focused in the fight against this pandemic?

The focus of all of our efforts right now must be on ways to manage the pandemic throughout the world in ways that will save lives in this and any future pandemic. This will require a focus on the host response.

Several studies have suggested that prescriptions for statins are associated with a 50% reduction in pneumonia hospitalizations and deaths. If statins prove to be effective against pneumonia, they might be similarly effective against pandemic influenza. Experimental studies in mice show that gemfibrozil and pioglitazone dramatically reduce influenza-related mortality. A 2005 study of resveratrol showed a 54% decrease in mortality in a mouse model of influenza.

The practical implications of these findings for an influenza pandemic are enormous. For example, in 2008, 29 billion doses of statins were produced worldwide, 16 billion of them as generics. If only 5% of this output had been set aside, it would have been sufficient to provide five days of treatment for 160 million people. Since treatment would probably be necessary only for those patients at risk of serious complications, multi-organ failure and death, supplies sufficient to over 2-10% of an infected population would probably be sufficient (perhaps H5N1 excepted). Gemfibrozil and pioglitazone are also produced as generics, and many of the companies that produce them are located in developing countries. As generics, these agents would be far less expensive than vaccines and antiviral agents; according to 2008 prices, five days of treatment would cost less than $1.00. Thus, stockpiles would be affordable and distribution channels could be set up in advance of a pandemic.

We don't know how any of these drugs are handled in people who are already sick. That's key. However, we have a wonderful research opportunity right now to develop multi-center trials of single dose treatment in patients with severe H1N1 influenza. We could measure drug levels and cytokine changes following treatment at different times during the course of illness. It would not be difficult to recruit several hundred people for studies like this, but no one is organized to do them. We can't afford not to do this work.

The message that needs to go out to the world is that health officials everywhere have a responsibility to find ways to manage a pandemic in all countries. This means that they don't have to explain the molecular biology of everything that's going on. Instead, they must find agents that can be used to save lives. We have enough evidence from experimental work and enough suggestions from clinical observations to suggest that we could do this by modifying the host response using inexpensive generic agents that are already being produced in developing countries. Making effective therapies widely available is the key to a global response to a pandemic, whether it is caused by the current swine H1N1 virus, an H5N1 virus or something in between.

Sadly, the arithmetic for pandemic vaccines and antivirals is unforgiving. WHO is focused on vaccines and antivirals that will only be available to people who can afford them, and that's ten percent of the world's population. Consequently, it doesn't matter that arguments for their use are scientifically well grounded; in practical terms they are pointless, in the same way that it is pointless to tell a starving man he should eat if there's no food in the kitchen. For pandemic vaccines and antiviral agents, the kitchen is empty. We should stop talking about things that people in developing countries will never have, and start talking about things they've already got.

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Fedson March Article in CDC's EID Journal: Developing Countries
Sorry for the format issues: The Soapbox Quote God still evidently has a bone to pick with me. (I'm starting to return the feeling.)

The references to alternative approaches above made me think of what is said in the NBSB, H1N1 Countermeasures Strategy and Decision-Making Forum, Executive Report linked in SusanC's diary about the upcoming teleconference tomorrow.

See:
Urgent! NBSB Teleconference TOMORROW July 17th

It says:

Treatments that could modify the immunologic cascade and clinical impact of the influenza are also attractive.  At present, there do not appear to be any such attractive candidates for immunologic or anti-inflamatory treatment, with the possible exception of celecoxib.

I am wondering what "attractive candidates" means and how celecoxib was given the Miss Congeniatlity award.  

Off hand I could find only one specific study (referenced by Dr. Fedson's March 2009 article in CDC's journal of Emerging Infectious Disesase linked below) for that drug on this potential use.

Dr. Fedson had an article published only months before the start of this current pandemic which warned of the dangers, discussed the potential of alternative approaches and suggested specific avenues of research that could be and should be immediately initiated in the early stages of a hypothetical pandemic (which we now know had already begun when the article was published.)

I have no idea if any of his suggestions have recieved consideration or action.  But this might be worth posing to the NBSB tomorrow.

Meeting the Challenge of Influenza Pandemic Preparedness in Developing Countries

David S. Fedson
Volume 15, Number 3-March 2009
http://www.cdc.gov/eid/content...

"Developing countries face unique difficulties preparing for an influenza pandemic. Our current top-down approach will not provide these countries with adequate supplies of vaccines and antiviral agents. Consequently, they will have to use a bottom-up approach based on inexpensive generic agents that either modify the host response to influenza virus or act as antiviral agents.  ...

It is becoming increasingly difficult for investigators to ignore arguments for treating the host response to influenza. Recently, investigators showed that giving a neuraminidase inhibitor to mice infected with influenza virus A (H5N1) was not nearly as effective as treating the mice with an antiviral agent and 2 immunomodulatory agents, mesalazine, ... , and celecoxib, ... .
...
Because prepandemic research cannot establish whether these agents will be effective in a pandemic, randomized controlled trials must begin immediately after a new pandemic virus has emerged.  Without this research, industrialized and developing countries could face an unprecedented health crisis."

Pandemic Influenza: A Potential Role for Statins in Treatment and Prophylaxis
David S. Fedson
July 15, 2006

http://www.journals.uchicago.e...

ITW(Joel J)
Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear.
- Mark Twain
 


It's a shame that nothing has happened with this yet.
From April, 2008
What Fedson is referring to
is the potential use of statins in curbing cytokine storms caused by the H5N1 infection. The idea is not new, and Fedson voiced support for pursuing this angle of attack two years ago, but not much seems to have been done on the subject in the interim: ...

http://www.newfluwiki2.com/sho...

Statin drugs lower respiratory death risk

POSTED: 5:56 p.m. EDT, April 9, 2007
http://www.cnn.com/2...

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- People who use statin drugs are less likely to die of influenza and chronic bronchitis, according to a study that shows yet another unexpected benefit of the cholesterol-lowering medications. Their study of more than 76,000 people showed that those who had taken statins for at least 90 days had a much lower risk of dying from chronic obstructive pulmonary disease or COPD, the technical name for emphysema and chronic bronchitis. Patients on statins also had a lower risk of dying from influenza or pneumonia, the researchers reported Monday....


http://www.newfluwiki2.com/sho...

Inexpensive generics to fight pandemic flu?
Article by David Fedson in Lancet Infectious Diseases.
"Confronting an influenza pandemic with inexpensive generic agents: can it be done?"
Unfortunately only summary is available full-text

http://www.thelancet.com/journ...  [[the link at the original probably works]]

   Avian influenza A H5N1 presents a serious and possibly imminent pandemic threat. In such an event, adequate supplies of affordable vaccines and antiviral agents will be unavailable to most people in the world. In view of the overwhelming need for effective alternatives, generic agents that target the host immune response or the pandemic virus should be considered....


http://www.newfluwiki2.com/sho...


"The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it."  Flannery O'Connor

I think I recall that Dr. Fedson
and Dr. Chu wrote a letter that was published about this matter?

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it was just a letter to the editor, in the Times of London n/t




All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...


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resveratrol
wow, I had missed that point on resveratrol reducing flu deaths by 54%.
I check and there do seem to be evidence.

Resveratrol is now part of my preps.

How did I miss that?  We need to make sure that is known.  

Be Prepared


resveratrol
In the mouse model, rodents injected with resveratrol after inoculation with the influenza virus were seen to have 40 percent increased survival, compared with those that received a placebo.

Six days after infection, the resveratrol-treated mice had 98 percent lower pulmonary viral titers in their lung than the placebo mice.

Resveratrol's effects in this study are attributed to its antioxidant properties, and in particular the fact that it inhibits a cellular, rather than a viral function.

http://www.nutraingredients.co...

...Rather than directly attacking the flu virus itself, resveratrol seems to block host-cell functions that are essential for viral replication". Resveratrol can also be taken regularly to help prevent even getting the flu. ....
http://preventswineflu.us/

....In a recent study by researchers from The University Of Rome, Resveratrol was found to inhibit the replication of the Flu virus - specifically influenza A virus - in mice. The researches found that replication of the virus was reduced up to 87.5% when resveratrol was administered after the first 3 hours of exposure.

Mice given resveratrol verses mice given a placebo had a 40% increase in survival rate. In fact, the level of virus found in the lungs of resveratrol treated mice was 98% less than those given the placebo. .....

but the problem is most of the info out there seems to be from people selling the product.


Be Prepared


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Pinot Noir . . .
If you want your resveratrol in a relatively pure form, Pinot Noir wine contains a good bit of it . . .I've had about six cases stashed in the basement for a couple of years now (I'm not much of a drinker, or it would have been long gone).  I guess I should try to find it and see how much there really is.  I figured that was a dual-use prep - in the midst of pandemic, I could probably use a drink, along with the resveratrol.

Pinot Noir from the Willamette Valley was fairly high in resveratrol when I was learning about it, because of the climate in which the grapes are grown.


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Not much absorbed from wine
Clawdia: If you check out Wikipedia's entry on resveratrol -  it basically says that red wine does not deliver much to the blood and the best way to get any is to dissolve it in a liquid and absorb in in the mouth. I bought some pinot noir myself but have been keeping the stock turning over.  

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Since I live in the Willamette Valley...
... will I absorb extra resveratrol from the climate? (fingers crossed) ;-))
I suppose at least I will have local access to the best crops...  

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Is that what Bronco uses? n/t


To calm the wife buy cases of chocolate, to calm the husband buy cases of booze, and to calm the children...... heck the booze and chocolate should work.

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Ha! No way...
Pinot is foo-foo wine. BBRWFK is purely Cabernet Sauvignon. Don't accept anything less!!
And, it's really the only wine that gets better with age (read: long-term storage).
Merlot would be my second choice, but neither lasts long around my house! LOL!!

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Oh no BB!
Merlot is not a second choice! LOL

I had the good fortune of finding a 2001 Merlot reserve from my favorite winery last year. It "was" a good year! Haha

Still, it doesn't matter, your BBRWFK is the best in around.


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