Indonesia - Jan. 30 to Jan. 31

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by: Michelle in OK @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 04:37:43 AM UTC

Updated Indonesia Table

Indonesia Summary - Updated as of 01/29/07

		2006						2007
Cases Discussed		Pre-Oct	Oct	Nov	Dec	Total		Jan
Died, no test results		11	7	5	1	24		3
Died, tested positive		12	3	2	0	17		6
Other tested positive		5	0	0	0	5		2
Symptoms, tests pending		90	30	9	17	146		115
Tested negative		51	11	22	15	99		80
Totals		169	51	38	33	291		206

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by: Michelle in OK @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 04:38:21 AM UTC

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Updated Indonesia Table

Indonesia Summary - Updated as of 01/30/07

		2006						2007
Cases Discussed		Pre-Oct	Oct	Nov	Dec	Total		Jan
Died, no test results		11	7	5	1	24		3
Died, tested positive		12	3	2	0	17		6
Other tested positive		5	0	0	0	5		1
Symptoms, tests pending		90	30	9	17	146		121
Tested negative		51	11	22	15	99		81
Totals		169	51	38	33	291		212

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by: Michelle in OK @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 05:03:09 AM UTC

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Updated Indonesia Table

Indonesia Summary - Updated as of 01/31/07

		2006						2007
Cases Discussed		Pre-Oct	Oct	Nov	Dec	Total		Jan
Died, no test results		11	7	5	1	24		5
Died, tested positive		12	3	2	0	17		6
Other tested positive		5	0	0	0	5		1
Symptoms, tests pending		90	30	9	17	146		128
Tested negative		51	11	22	15	99		81
Totals		169	51	38	33	291		221

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by: Michelle in OK @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:16:21 AM UTC

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If you notice that a positive disappeared

from the table, it is because I had marked DS (14) in Sardjito positive from an article before I realized it simply meant a rapid Flu A positive without any reference to H5N1.  I then forgot to change it before posting on Jan 29.  The table on Jan 30 is corrected.

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by: Michelle in OK @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 05:06:36 AM UTC

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Jeng Retno Aryani (2) is negative, & lots of bird vaxing at night

Efforts of "Jemput Bola" combatted Bird Flu, Pemko the Vaccination 7.252 poultries Tonight

Medan, (the Analysis)

The team of Pemko Medan for three nights according to succeeded in doing the vaccination against 7.252 poultries consisted of the chicken, the duck and the other poultry.The vaccination tonight against the poultry was carried out [snip] the implementation of the vaccination against the poultry tonight was meant as efforts to maximise prevented the spreading of bird flu in the Medan City. Because, during the vaccination that was carried out during the day, several poultries have precisely been released.

He explained, on January 24 the vaccination in the Johor Building District the Medan Johor Subdistrict covered the chicken kind 2.377 tails, the duck 318 tails and the other poultry 57 tails.282 EKOR On January 25 was carried out by the vaccination in the Famous Base District the Medan Johor Subdistrict namely the chicken 2.267 tails, the duck 282 tails and birds 602 tails. Whereas on January 26 the vaccination in the District Sukamaju the Medan Johor Subdistrict namely the chicken 1.167 tails and 189 ducks and the other poultry.  He explained, during the vaccination to several environments, 18 officials were mobilised that worked occasionally until struck 23.00 WIB. to the community was appealed to in order to bring their respective poultry to the most United Post the Poultry (Posdugas) that was provided in their respective environment.  Eka Yanti Daniel said, the problem of bird flu and the prevention him was responsibility and the task of all the sides, namely the government and the community."So, let's co-operated and together worked," he said. The vaccination will be continued on Monday night (29/01) in the District walked on Kuing and the Kwala Bekala District.

The section head the Medan Health Dr Umar Zein said, was based on results of the research of Jakarta, Jeng Retno (2 years) the resident of the District Tangkahan the Medan Labuhan Subdistrict, evidently was unproven bird flu.The "age child two years and his parents were unproven bird flu." Praise the Lord, they
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[Comment:  this seems to say that Jeng Retno (2) reported here http://www.newfluwik... has tested negative.  He was seen at RSUP H Adam the Medan Owner but was released quickly to return home with his parents.

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by: Pixie @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 06:24:15 AM UTC

Update: RSUD Slamet Garut

After six days were treated in the doctor's Public Hospital Slamet, Garut, West Java, Dede as well as his two children the Blessing, 7 years, and Riva, 9 years, were just recently permitted to come home after being stated by the bird flu negative.
The illness that they the suffering evidently only common flu.
"His sign was quite same," explained the doctor Widjajanti, the Head of the Medical RSU Field the doctor Slamet.
The three patients were beforehand treated in isolation space after pointing out the sign of bird flu.
Dede's case could be expected as cluster bird flu, although later that was unproven [read: Cluster Bird Flu It Was Estimated improved].
Now in Jember, East Java, a patient was named Andika (3.5 years) still must be treated intensive in RS the doctor Subandi.
The child from the Standard, Situbondo, East Java, this was expected terjangkit bird flu after experiencing the high fever, breathless and once contact with ungggas in his house environment.
However, the assurance of the Andika illness kind must be still being waiting for results of the sample inspection of blood in Jakarta.
http://www.liputan6....
30/01/2007 13:54

I am not like other birds of prey....

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by: Commonground @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 11:27:32 AM UTC

NEW Cases - 4 - RS Dr Sardjito Yogyakarta

Santos - Yogyakarta, four patients suspect bird flu from one family from Playan, the Kidul Mountain, Yogyakarta just entered and was treated today in RS Dr. Sardjito Yogyakarta.

Was like this was sent by the Chairman of the Team of the Control of Bird Flu of RS Dr. Sardjito Yogyakarta, Dr. Sumardi to ELSHINTA, this Tuesday morning (30/1).

Therefore, Sumardi words, in RS Dr. Sarjito Yogyakarta were received by 11 patients suspect bird flu that was treated in isolation space.
It was further that Sumardi said, from 11 patients six among them children's patient and five other mature.
From five mature patients, four including being one family, namely the PT Family from Playan, the Kidul Mountain.
The four patients were the reconciliation patient from the community health centre in the Playan territory.

According to Sumardi, since the beginning to the end of this January 2007, has been recorded by 15 patients suspect bird flu that was treated in RS Sardjito.
One among them positive bird flu on behalf of GL, from greetings, Magelang and died last January 19 2007 {Comment: This is Qumi Laila mentioned in post above}
http://www.elshinta....
30/1/2007 14:15 WIB

I am not like other birds of prey....

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by: Commonground @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 11:30:37 AM UTC

Metro News & Liputan not picking up on story.....

What I find interesting is that neither Liputan or Metro News has picked up on these new family members so far - it's 11:05 a.m. EST.

I am not like other birds of prey....

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by: Commonground @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 16:18:51 PM UTC

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3 Garut patients go home

The PATIENT SUSPECT Garut ORIGIN BIRD FLU was returned

Selasa, 30 Januari 2007 12:17 WIB  / http://www.metrotvne...

Metrotvnews.com, Garut: the three patients suspect bird flu that was treated in space of the isolation of Public Hospital bird flu (RSU) Doctor Slamet, Garut, West Java, on Monday afternoon (29/1), was permitted to come home.They could be treated for six days.

Apart from their condition improved, results of the laboratory of showing the negative, to the three of them contracted bird flu. The three patients were one family namely the mother and the child, the Resident of the Cimaragas Village, the Cimaragas Village, of the Pamatikan Subdistrict, the Garut Regency.

Results of the laboratory mentioned that the mother, Dede, suffered the respiratory tract infection. While his two children experienced the common flu fever.They could be identified as the patient suspect bird flu because beforehand they once contact with poultries that died mndadak in their house environment.
(YUL)

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by: Pixie @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 11:34:19 AM UTC

Banda Lampung new case

Banda Lampung, KOMPAS-Association of the Indonesian Veterinary Surgeon (PHDI) Lampung considered the Lampung Provincial Government was more inefficient provided the umbrella of the spreading of bird flu of the control law.
As a result, the control of bird flu in Lampung was still partial and was not yet solidest.
The chairman PHDI Lampung Ahmad Prabowo, on Tuesday (30/1) said, if since the beginning the bird flu emergence in Lampung in 2004 immediately had joined with the governor's regulation or the regional regulation, definitely the spreading of bird flu could be in Lampung controlled.
"Peraturan from the government, anything his form was binding so as to be able to become the early prevention for the spreading of the flu virus burung," he said.
Ahmad also considered was wrong if the government forbade the inhabitants to not maintain the poultry.

-snip-

Since 2005 till January 2007, was recorded by RSU Abdul Moeloek (RSUAM) has treated 25 bird flu patients.
Totalling three positive patients but could recover.
Now in January 2007, RSUAM has treated the suspect's three patients in bird flu.

On Monday (29/1), one patient with the status of the suspect in bird flu again was received RSUAM. the Patient was named Qomariah (45) villagers Kepayang the Subdistrict of Rajabasa Banda Lampung entered RSUAM struck 20.30

http://www.kompas.co...
Selasa, 30 Januari 2007 - 18:16 wib

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by: Influentia2 @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 12:00:30 PM UTC

Tamiflu news from Egypt & data from 4,000 patients

{Comment: Are these 4,000 H5N1 patients, or 4,000 regular flu patients, that were treated with Tamiflu?}

Tamiflu never again Effective warded off H5NI

Jakarta, the Stand / Selasa,  30 Januari 2007 / http://tribunkaltim....

Tamiflu was known as the virus charm H5NI. But the worrying news currently emerges. Medical medical treatment with tamiflu on the bird flu patient evidently ineffective.This happened when tamiflu was given to 2 patients who were infected by the virus H5NI in Egypt.

According to the expert in the health Dr Tjandra Yoga Aditama, WHO mentioned that happened because of the virus has bermutasi. Two patients who finally had died were a girl was 16 years old and his uncle who was 26 years old.Both of them died because of being infected by the virus H5NI in the previous month. Realised this, the previous researchers analysed the virus that was received to the two people in the laboratory. And results showed the genetic change in the virus happened so as to become more sensitive and resisten against tamiflu.The similar genetic change happened also to one of the patients in Vietnam.

The data that was gathered from 4 thousand patients who underwent medical treatment with tamiflu, showed in general the level of resistance in the virus happened.To the adult pointed out the figure 0,4 percent and the figure 4 percent to age children 1 till 12 years.

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by: Pixie @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 12:26:06 PM UTC

that's probably the japanese study n/t

All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...

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by: SusanC @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 12:46:49 PM UTC

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Could you clarify?

When was the Japanese study on 4000 done? Were they all regular flu victims? And why does this article indicate that the results of this testing showed some degree of tamiflu resistance?  Is that resistance in ordinary flu virus or H5N1?  Whole thing is kind of confusing.

Always have a plan B.

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by: maryinhawaii @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 16:08:41 PM UTC

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I'm trying to find it ;-)

I've come across it, mentioned by Hayden, but I'm not sure it is exactly those figures. Certainly very close.  Incidence of oseltamivir resistance in kids in Japan.  Right now, Lancet is being obstinate and not letting me retrieve that one paper.  I'll let you know whether it is or is not correct when I find it!



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...

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by: SusanC @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 07:02:56 AM UTC

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More on the fly research from Dr. Wasito

Bird flu was enabled Tertular went through Lalat

30 Januari 2007 / http://www.antara.co...

The solo (Antara News) - the Spread of the bird flu virus (Avian influenza/AI) was enabled through the fly, because of being based on the research was found by the existence of the virus H5N1 in the outside cuticle, the channel pencernakan and in the meat muscle, said Prof Dr Wasito from FK UGM Yogyakarta.

The professor of the Stupid School Of Medicine of the Elephant University (UGM) this proposed that in socialisation gaps had the theme "Bird Flu and AI Anticipation", as well as not frightened of eating chicken and the chicken egg with the Solo community, in Pendapo Big the Surakarta Complex of the Town Hall Office Complex, on Tuesday.

Moreover, according to him, uptil now was proven the fly also became the animal penular for the other illness, like Tuberculosis (the TB), the worm, cholera and desentri.
Former Director General (the Director General) the Livestock Breeding said, in the research that was carried out, evidently the fly could contain the virus H5N1, because this virus was received to the cell of the fly egg that could be unloaded until 25 generations came.He suggested, despite the research was not yet complete and will continue to it was continued, but was not mistakenly in the control bird flu that important was bio-security, that is anti-virus and anti-fly. The AI control that only destroyed the poultry, he said, was really ineffective, except to the poultry that was sick, because if all was destroyed will have an impact that was big also. For the poultry that was sick, he stressed, continued to have to be destroyed and don't disembelih, because poultry blood that was cut off was still containing the virus H5N1. "If having the affected poultry this virus must be destroyed, and don't by means of being cut off, but being given the drugs CO2 then was put in inseminator or the annihilator's implement" of the "poultry."If being burnt disembarang the place as if Indonesia the primitive country.This was for the child's education not good, said Wasito.()

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by: Pixie @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 12:45:31 PM UTC

another japanese study ;-)

links later tonight if you want them.  no time just now.



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...

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by: SusanC @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 12:49:59 PM UTC

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This is where I want to go to school ;-)

From the above toggletexted article:

"The professor of the Stupid School Of Medicine of the Elephant University"

Toggletext is great, but sometimes what comes out sure makes you scratch your head and chuckle.

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by: Okieman @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 13:07:51 PM UTC

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Dumbo Jumbo U? ;-) n/t

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by: UK - Bird @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 13:45:06 PM UTC

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LQTM :^} nt

ITW(Joel J)
Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear.
- Mark Twain
 

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by: Into The Woods @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 18:35:27 PM UTC

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K in Mi

I am posting this here hoping you see this. If you would like some links etc. to add to your search regarding Indo news please email me at influentia2athotmaildomcom. If anyone else has the time and is interested in searching please email me. I have to work full time now but will help anyone in the evenings that wants to help search and has the time.

Thanks and now back to the news.........

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by: Influentia2 @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 12:45:34 PM UTC

Flu Burung Education...by airplane

On Tuesday, January 30 2007 18:22 WIB
  JABOTABEK
» Jakarta
the Socialisation of the Handling of Bird Flu, the Special Capital District Provincial Government used the Aircraft
The writer: Heni Rahayu
Jakarta -- MIOL: the Special Capital District Provincial Government will carry out the socialisation of the handling of bird flu through the aircraft.
That was said by the Head of the Bureau of public relations and Protocol of the Special Capital District Provincial Government, Arie Budhiman, in the Town Hall, on Tuesday (30/1).
The "socialisation will from the possibility aircraft be carried out on February 1 coincided with sweeping the poultry in Jakarta," said Arie.
The socialisation from the light aircraft the Gelatik kind used the banner have a length of 3,2 metre and wide 1 metre.
The aircraft will carry the banner that be inscribed 'combatted Bird Flu will' go 'round' Jakarta' for two hours.
Arie said, the aircraft will be the take-off from the Halim Perdanakusumah Airport, Jakarta East, began struck 09.
50 WIB.
Initially, the aircraft will surround the Town Hall and the area of surrounding area totalling twice.
Further, the aircraft will surround several districts in five territories in the Special Capital District of Jakarta.
The "socialisation that was carried out by us was a serious effort to handle bird flu in Jakarta," he said.
(Ray/OL-06)

http://www.media-ind...

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by: Okieman @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 13:34:31 PM UTC

a banner reading "Combat bird flu"? serious stuff! n/t

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by: crfullmoon @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 15:22:11 PM UTC

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South Korea helps fight bird flu in Indonesia

South Korea helped Indonesia with equipment valued at 500,000 U.S. dollars to fight bird flu in the country, Agriculture Minister Anton Apriantono said Tuesday.

Minister Apriantono said that the devices comprise powder antiseptic, manual knapsack sprayer and devices to rapidly detect bird flu on animals.

The equipment would be used by a number of animal quarantine centers in the country, he said.

Most of the provinces in Indonesia has been infected by the highly pathogenic H5N1.

Sixty-three out of 81 people infected by bird flu have died in Indonesia, all of them were infected through fowls, health ministry said.

Indonesia has slaughtered millions of chickens to prevent the disease from spreading.

Source: Xinhua

http://english.peopl...

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by: Influentia2 @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 13:37:27 PM UTC

I am not convinced that all of them were infected by fowls and I question how he knows for sure.

 

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     

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by: Carol@SC @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 14:01:49 PM UTC

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I agree, but in this quote he says something else

Minister Apriantono said that the devices comprise powder antiseptic, manual knapsack sprayer and devices to rapidly detect bird flu on animals.

Of course I am reading between the lines again:)

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by: Influentia2 @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 14:08:34 PM UTC

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Thanks for pointing out the "animals" to me. My radar had missed that.

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     

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by: Carol@SC @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 14:20:50 PM UTC

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Details on "LM" from Manado, Northern Sulawesi

1-30-07 http://www.metrotvne...
Selasa, 30 Januari 2007 20:10 WIB

  The patient suspect bird flu in RSU Professor Kandou, Manado, North Sulawesi.
Metrotvnews.com, Manado: the Team of the control doctor of Professor's Public Hospital bird flu of Kandou Manado, North Sulawesi, still could not ascertain the illness that was suffered by the patient have the initials Lm.
The hospital side was still being waiting for results of the research of the Health of the Body of the Department's Research And Development on the sample of the patient's blood.
The man was 60 years old from the Stone Village, the Likupang Subdistrict, Minahasa North, North Sulawesi, that has been treated for two days because of suffering the illness similar to bird flu.
When entering RSU Kandou, the man have the initials Lm that experienced the high fever was followed breathless, was similar to the bird flu sufferer.
Currently, the patient was treated in the special house the handling of bird flu.
Strangely, the doctor's side did not forbid the family to treat the patient without the mask and gloves.
In fact, the medical team personally, when checked, was equipped the mask and gloves.
As far as this is concerned, was not yet known, beforehand the patient once contact with the poultry or not.
 

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by: pugmom @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 15:06:08 PM UTC

4 (maybe 11) New Cases Yogyakarta, Central Java

(I can't tell if the 11 patients they cite are part of the ones that we already have listed.)
1-30-07 http://www.elshinta....

Santos - Yogyakarta, four patients suspect bird flu from one family from Playan, the Kidul Mountain, Yogyakarta just entered and was treated today in RS Dr. Sardjito Yogyakarta.
Was like this was sent by the Chairman of the Team of the Control of Bird Flu of RS Dr. Sardjito Yogyakarta, Dr. Sumardi to ELSHINTA, this Tuesday morning (30/1).
Therefore, Sumardi words, in RS Dr. Sarjito Yogyakarta were received by 11 patients suspect bird flu that was treated in isolation space.
It was further that Sumardi said, from 11 patients six among them children's patient and five other mature.
From five mature patients, four including being one family, namely the PT Family from Playan, the Kidul Mountain.
The four patients were the reconciliation patient from the community health centre in the Playan territory.
According to Sumardi, since the beginning to the end of this January 2007, has been recorded by 15 patients suspect bird flu that was treated in RS Sardjito.
One among them positive bird flu on behalf of GL, from greetings, Magelang and died last January 19 2007.

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by: pugmom @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 15:23:10 PM UTC

Posted already at 06:30 today on this diary. n/t

I am not like other birds of prey....

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by: Commonground @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 15:47:17 PM UTC

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from this article:

could it be that the fifteen patients in hosp at once were a misreport, and there were actually 15 total?

Or do you think there are an unnamed 4?

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by: Juliet @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 20:14:19 PM UTC

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More on cases out of Yogy

1-30-07 http://www.republika...

  On Tuesday, January 30 2007 14:43:00
continued to improve the Patient Suspect Bird Flu in RS Sardjito Yogyakarta
Yogyakarta-RoL -- The Number Of patients suspect bird flu that was treated in the Hospital (RS) Sardjito Yogyakarta continued to improve, and to currently become 15 patients, including six patients who entered last Monday (29/1), the public relations headword and Information of RS Sardjito Drs Trisno Heru Nugroho, on Tuesday.
"From six patients who entered finally that, four including being one family from the Playen Subdistrict, the Gunungkidul Regency," said he.
He mentioned since last Friday (19/1) RS Sardjito continued to be flooded by the patient suspect bird flu, that was the reconciliation patient from the community health centre and the hospital in the Yogyakarta Special District Province (DIY) and Central Java (Central Java).
"There was one patient that is Q was six years old from Plugeran, the greetings Subdistrict, the Magelang Regency (Central Java) died, and results" of the "test laborat showed positive casualties were infected by the bird flu virus," said he. (Referring to Quma Laila)
He said, six patients suspect bird flu that entered in Monday that was BREAK UP (4) the resident of the eggplant District, the Dlingo Subdistrict, of the Bantul Regency (DIY), MC (14) the resident of the Umbulharjo Subdistrict (the Yogyakarta City), as well as four patients that still one family from this Gunungkidul was AJ (27), VE (25), A (20) and TA (55).
"Was based on the acknowledgment one of the families, they just buried the chicken that died suddenly near his house, and when burying the chicken they did not use pengaman or the mask," he said.
According to Trisno, beforehand RS Sarjito treated eight patients suspect bird flu that entered the hospital in succession from last January 26.
This patient was YD (2,5) the resident Sentulrejo, the Wirogunan District, of the Mergangsan Subdistrict, the Yogyakarta City, but last Friday (28/1) was permitted to come home, because of results of the test laborat pointed out the negative.
Afterwards his condition gradually improved.
In Friday that also entered again the patient suspect bird flu that is NF (2) from the Godean Subdistrict, the Sleman Regency that was reconciliation from the regional Public Hospital (RSUD) Murangan,

 

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by: pugmom @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 15:54:46 PM UTC

It appears that the amount of new cases in Yogy

that got admitted last night are 5 (since we had Break-up already listed.) This includes 4 members from 1 family. (Here we are playing the numbers game again, as they say they are up to 15 patients and that does not exactly match with my lists.)

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by: pugmom @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 17:02:10 PM UTC

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All 7 cases from Makassar are negative

1-29-07 http://www.beritakot...

On Monday, 29-01-2007 Seven the Patient Suspect the Bird Flu Negative
MAKASSAR, BKM-Seven the resident who could be run off with to the Hospital (RS) Dr Wahidin Sudirohusodo was stated by the negative after beforehand it was suspected tertular the bird flu illness (avian influenza).
The assurance of seven residents, three of the Maros regencies and four of these Makassar cities was sent by the Co-ordinator the Team of the Control of South Sulawesi Bird Flu, Debsy V Patilima when being contacted by BKM, on Sunday (28/1).
According to Debsy, results of the sample inspection of blood and the throat bribe were just accepted by the team last Saturday (27/1) from Jakarta.
"We just received him, and the seven people that could suspect was stated by the negative avian influenza."
So, the community in and around them might not hesitate, said Debsy.
When being asked whether the cause so as seven patients suffered the fever, Debsy claimed still could not explain in detail.
He only confirmed the seven patients who returned to his house were negative.
Contacted separately, the Team of the Handling of the Patient Bird Flu of RS Dr Wahidin Sudirohusodo, Rita Rawaeni justified results of the laboratory inspection of Jakarta.
Rita also admitted to accepting these results and the seven patients were stated by the negative.
Seven patients who could be run off with to RS Dr Wahidin were three residents of the Kassikebo Village, the Betang Village, of the Maros Regency, Praised Alle (42), Hj Sri Suriani (25) and H Muh Ismail (26).
The three of them came home him last January 18 after spending the night one night in the hospital.
While four other patients were the resident Street Usman Dg Alle, the Tamamung District, of the Panakukkang Subdistrict, Makassar Wati (35), Sitti (31), Ardi (11) and the daughter Triwati that still was one year old, ten months.
The four of them entered the hospital on January 22 lau.
In RS Dr Wahidin, all of them were treated in special space the maintenance of bird flu (the ferns Building).
With he confirmed seven patients suspect bird flu not tertular the deadly illness, until at this time Makassar and South Sulawesi were still staying safe....

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by: pugmom @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 16:25:40 PM UTC

Prices Plummet on Poultry in Indo

Spread him information about the plague of bird flu that also was known with the nickname of the kind virus H5Nl currently began to affect the trader in Tanjungbalai.
The reason is, the marketing turnover as well as the price of the piece chicken and the poultry in the shellfish city descended sharply.
According to the trader, the price of the chicken usually revolves Rp12.000-Rp 14.000 per kg.
However, on last Monday (29/1) descended to Rp 8.000-until Rp 9.000 per kg.
Likewise the sale turnover of the piece chicken decreased compared to beforehand.

Several traders in the traditional market of Street Bahagia, Street Veteran and the station Market Street Lt Gen Suprapto Tanjungbalai, said, since rumours of the plague of busy bird flu were discussed by his impact really struck the traders of the piece chicken in the city keang that.
Beside his price plummeted, the volume of piece chicken that was sold far decreased.
More:  http://www.medanbisn...

I am not like other birds of prey....

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by: Commonground @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 16:34:16 PM UTC

What do you think

(Are they referring to a patient named "Nihil" that got BF from eating a raw egg?  Nihil can be translated as "nil", so am not sure.  This is a strange article out of Masyarakat, Central Kalimantan.  Also sounds like they may be testing cats and dogs (the ones that did not escape.))

1-30-07 http://www.radarsamp...

  Tuesday, January 30 2007
Nihil, the Patient Suspect the Deputy Governor's Bird Flu Ban ate the Half-ripe Egg of PALANGKA RAYA-Masyarakat in Central Kalimantan might be relieved.
Although the death of the poultry animal in the Regency Kotawaringin West (the Co- Bar) was stated positive terjangkit the bird flu virus, till at this time did not yet have the report on the spread of the virus H5N1 from the poultry to humankind.
"Walau did not yet have the report, the government has anticipated him by preparing 3 rooms of the complete isolation in RS Dr Doris Sylvanus.
This year will be developed 3 rooms of the isolation again from the budget APBN," said Central Kalimantan Vice-Governor Ahmad Diran ended attended the most united meeting of the control of bird flu, on last Monday (29/1).
Apparently was present in being in a meeting this Kadis the Health of the province Dr Wildan, the Head of RS Dr Doris Sylvanus Dr Don Leiden, as well as Kadis Animal the province Drs. Soedarmadji.
Dr Don Leiden added, the medical staff in RS Dr Doris Sylvanus like the specialist doctor, the general practitioner, as well as the nurse who will handle the patient suspect bird flu took part in the handling course of bird flu.
Diran also ask for to the community to not panic and frightened of consuming meat as well as other poultry products.
However like that, the person of the number two in this Central Kalimantan made a plea so that the community that uptil now liked to consume the half-ripe egg in order to stop him.
"Mengkonsumsi the half-ripe egg evidently was risky towards the spread of the bird flu virus.
In the near future, will be issued by us the ban ate the egg half matang," said Diran....
In the meantime, from the activity surveiland that was carried out by the Service of Province Livestock Breeding in 14 regencies/the city in Central Kalimantan, the virus H5N1 only was found in the Regency Kotawaringin West.
"Bukan only poultry animals that were checked by us, the other animal as the cat and the dog did not escape was tested.

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by: pugmom @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 16:50:41 PM UTC

Update - RSUP Dr Sardjito

YOGYA (KR) - the Patient who was expected or suspek bird flu in RSUP Dr Sardjito continued to improve.
If on Saturday early afternoon (27/1), there were 4 patients who were treated in Special Space the Isolation, on Saturday late afternoon more again two patients of the male child.
The 2 patients had the initials D from the Prambanan Sleman Subdistrict and that another, because of parents of this child objected to being exposed by the RS side did not give his initials.

On Monday (29/1) results rapid the test of all the patient has been sent to Balitbang Department of Health.
This sample was just sent to Jakarta on Monday because of Saturday and on Sunday Balitbang Department of Health libur," said the Chairman of the Team of the Control of Bird Flu of RS Dr Sardjito Dr Sumardi SpPD the member the Bird Flu Task Force Dr Amalia Setyati SpA, on Monday (19/1).
From one of the village heads in the Subdistrict of Dlingo Bantul a male child was expected by bird flu and was not yet known his initials also entered RS Dr Sardjito, on Monday (29/1) around struck 13.
00.
This information mentioned this patient experienced the high fever, so as immediately was reconciled to RS Dr Sardjito.
Therefore the patient was expected by bird flu that still was treated in RS Sardjito to 6 patients.

Answered the question how the condition for the 6 patients Dr Amalia said, one of the him YD on Sunday night might have come home.
While 5 other patients were still being treated intensively in Special Space the Isolation, but generally his condition has improved, meaning that never again the high fever.
Indeed did something wrong a patient from results rapid the test showed positive.
Was obeying Dr Sumardil, was related to the patient's increase suspek bird flu, was done by the increase in the bed.
If beforehand was provided 6 beds, now become 11 beds so as more 5 beds.
"Karena limited this place then for the Community Health Centre and RS could confirmation dulu," said Dr Sumardi.

http://www.kr.co.id/...
Tuesday, 30 January 2007, Berita Utama (Hlm Luar)
KOREA SELATAN BANTU RP 4,5 MILIAR; Pasien Suspek Flu Burung Bertambah

I am not like other birds of prey....

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by: Commonground @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 17:22:30 PM UTC

"The funny incident".....Dr Sardjito - TP/TA (55)

Excerpt:

The chairman of the Team of the Control of Bird Flu of RSUP Dr Sardjito, Dr Sumardi SpPD explained, five people entered time almost simultaneously.
Four residents Gunungkidul entered struck 18.
44 whereas a Yogyakarta resident entered beforehand that is struck 17.
08.
Currently 'we treat 11 patients who were expected by bird flu, was based on the fast test, indeed results' of the 'negative, but we continued to send the sample to Jakarta to know definitely because some time before on his blood was found the poultry died suddenly', he stated.
The possibility in time 48 hours of all the result of the test have been known.

All the patient was expected by bird flu according to Sumardi was treated in isolation space and the capacity him was just right namely 11 beds.
So, if the possibility had the new patient, this room still is not able to accommodate him.
To 'anticipate him, the patient that results' of the 'test of Balitbang Department of Health the clear Centre' of the 'negative will immediately be moved by us to other space or if his condition has enabled might come home',' he explained.

The funny incident could happen when a patient TP (55 years) suddenly left isolation space, went out towards paths and sat, issued cigarettes and lighted him.
He appeared calm appeared to not care that if evidently he true was affected by the virus H5N1 could be very fatal as a result.
Right how he could slip away from the guarding of the nurse?
It seems according to several nurses, he asked permission to defecate, but evidently turned the direction, sat relaxed and smoked.
During smoked that several reporters asked chatted and he acknowledged not yet old contact with the poultry died.
Several days afterwards he was feverish, the cough and hot high.

Kulo 'dibeta ting the community health centre, trus direct Ken mriki', he explained that meant him could check to the community health centre but finally was run off with to RS Sardjito.
For a long time did not yet chat with the reporter, the official that since earlier sought immediately asked him to enter again isolation space.
He ngeyel wanted to go out because inside hot and could not smoke.
It was just very strange that the resident Playen, this Gunungkidul, made several visitors keep laughter
http://www.suaramerd...
Lima Orang Masuk RSUP Sardjito Lagi

I am not like other birds of prey....

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by: Commonground @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 21:48:38 PM UTC

OK, so it *is* 11, and not 15?

The 15 had been a reference to the number of patients all month?

so confusing!

I'm hoping the "funny" was lost in translation.

The "sad" wasn't.

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by: Juliet @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 22:06:48 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Funny - 'peculiar' not Funny - 'haha' ? n/t

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by: UK - Bird @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 22:17:03 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

well, it seems a little of both:

"It was just very strange that the resident Playen, this Gunungkidul, made several visitors keep laughter..."

Anyway. I hope someone's laughing.

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by: Juliet @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 22:51:54 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

I think they have a very peculiar definition of "funny". n/t

I am not like other birds of prey....

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by: Commonground @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 00:29:05 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

sure hope he didn`t "share" anything while he smoked N/T

There is no pleasure in having nothing to do; the fun is in having lots to do and not doing it." -Mary Wilson Little

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by: cactus @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 23:40:32 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Psychological effects

We need to remember that though rare, the Spanish Flu was known to cause psychlological effects in some patients.  John Barry mentions this in his book. 

While visiting a nearby town a year or so ago, a person told me a story of a man from that town who killed his wife and chased his childern with a knife while sick with the Spanish Flu back in 1918.  Before getting sick he was a normal, calm individual whom his neighbors would never suspect would behave in such a manner.  His behaviour was attributed to the flu.

The moral of my little (true) story?  Such oddities as is described above are likely personality traits, but...there is a possibility, though remote, of some type of flu influence.

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by: Okieman @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 01:55:41 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

Update - Abdul Moeloek Hospital - 2 Negatives

According to the family, Qomariah experienced the high fever after beforehand his seven property chickens died suddenly.
At this time, Qomariah was treated in isolation space.
According to the doctor Dilangga, the Chairman of the Team of the Handling of the Case of RSUP Abdoel Moeloek Bird Flu, the patient was handled as casualties suspect bird flu because of having the story of contact with the poultry died.
With the Qomariah entry, currently, RSUP Abdoel Moeloek treated three patients suspect bird flu, two including being stated by the negative

http://www.metrotvne...
Selasa, 30 Januari 2007 21:27 WIB.

I am not like other birds of prey....

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by: Commonground @ Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 22:00:36 PM UTC

Solicitation for a replacement.

Hi all.  I am going to be unable to track cases in Indonesia for a while, because of other time commitments.  I will finish up through tomorrow, January 31, and then send an updated spreadsheet to Dude to post at the ftp site.  Anyone willing to track is welcome to use the existing Excel spreadsheet or start their own, as desired.

If someone else could take over tracking cases by location beginning in February, then Okieman should still be able to do the maps periodically.  I've enjoyed working with you all and plan to be back, as time allows.
 

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by: Michelle in OK @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 01:21:58 AM UTC

instruction sheet?

Michelle, if you could do a sort of instruction sheet for how you verify what cases to put in the sheet etc., that might help people assess whether they can take on the task and also assure that the quality remains up to your standards during your absence (which I presume has to do with this year's tax season).

I'm considering whether to take it on but am worried that if I do it, there'd be an inordinate amount of argument over, say, whether (hypothetical) SD (10) is or is not the same as SRD (11), simply because of interpersonal history issues.

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by: Lisa the GP @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 01:58:33 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

In a nutshell, my instruction sheet is to rely on the news searchers

in the majority of instances.  When a case is in question, I try to err on the side of being conservative (must be the accountant in me) so we don't seem to be exaggerating a situation which is already of concern.

I wouldn't recommend someone trying to duplicate the tables or the lists at the top of threads, unless you have an interest in html (which I developed, courtesy of this forum.)  I would, however, recommend collecting as much detail as an article gives about a patient, because it often comes in useful later.

When the tracking started at Old Yeller, we were just all working together to stay straight on names and locations, and it is not much different now, except the volume of cases has increased drastically.  There are lots of formulas in the spreadsheet I used to sort, count, etc... but that was mainly to produce the table and they aren't necessary (just very useful if you enjoy that sort of thing.)

I would recommend someone to start with just basic tracking,  and gradually add other things as you are able.  It takes great patience, on everyone's part, as there will inevitably be some mistakes made.

AnnieB's spreadsheet on the Egypt thread would be a good place to look also, as she is doing a great job with the cases and the tables.

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by: Michelle in OK @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 03:24:13 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

Info for maps

The info I use in making the maps is:

1. village, town or city where the patient is from, and the province where it is located

2. test results if available, positive or negative

3. and if the patient has died, I need a note to indicating their death

The spreadsheet Michelle has been maintaining is much more indepth and contains data not shown in the maps.  But for my part, this is all I need to make the maps posted.

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by: Okieman @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 02:09:22 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

I am speechless Michelle in OK!

Really sorry you will be tied up for awhile. Wish I could help but I absolutely don't have a clue how you keep all this straight. You do it all so well too. There are a lot of very smart people here and I am sure they will step into your shoes for awhile. We need you so I hope your commitments don't keep you from us for very long.

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     

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by: Carol@SC @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 02:37:04 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

Thanks, Carol@SC, and yes,

there are a lot of very smart and helpful people here.  I am grateful for all that I've learned about getting my family prepared and glad to have had the opportunity to help a little.

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by: Michelle in OK @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 03:29:19 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

existing excel spreadsheet...

how do you get the existing excel spreadsheet?

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by: Lisa the GP @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 07:12:57 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

ok, I'm NOT going to do it...

I'm thinking over my current situation and realize that I probably shouldn't take on the listing.  1) I attract controversy.  The last thing some people here want to see is *me* deciding what constitutes a new case  2) I'm using a fast computer at the moment but will be going home to a much slower connection in a few days  3) this evening I've developed a runny nose, cough, and now low fever (whee!), so I may or may not be entirely coherent later this week (and if by chance I've crossed paths with patient zero, I may not be *alive* later this week, though I wouldn't encourage anyone to get their hopes up on that.)

So I cede the floor to some other brave soul.

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by: Lisa the GP @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 07:37:44 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

Thanks for the thought anyway, Lisa the GP.

I hope you start feeling better.

FloridaGirl has volunteered before to step in when the need arises, so maybe her situation will allow her to do so at this time.  If not, maybe someone else's schedule will allow it.  We have many who are capable.

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by: Michelle in OK @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 13:40:08 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Naahhh,,, I am going to ask Lisa to Help me!

How about it Lisa?  Want to take this on together?

We will both look over that days diary;  make a quick list... then every night between 10 and Midnight.... we will put it together.  I think it is better for 2 eyes anyway.  Commonground and influencia2 both keep a running list.  AND they are good at keep us on tract.

You will be loved (and appreciated) by millions!!!!

Well, by a couple of dozen anyway....

Michelle, when is your last night?
AND could you copy to word the formatted version of the top part of html? I will try my hand at it..... You can email it to me at the email that is in my profile.  I only have another couple of weeks in this class anyway.

Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, that's all who ever have. ~ Margaret Mead

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by: FloridaGirl @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:50:24 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

Reply for Florida Girl...

I'm going to add a comment at the bottom of this thread, so it doesn't get thin and difficult to read.  We can discuss details there.

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by: Michelle in OK @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:13:40 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

florida girl timezone

10-midnight which time zone?  Eastern becomes 7 - 9 for me, I think.

Better today enough to try this, but not yet well. :sigh:

I do think we've (the wiki has) been doing a lot of inadvertent seasonal flu tracking, as commonground observed.  Oh well.

Use email to coordinate now.

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by: Lisa the GP @ Mon Feb 05, 2007 at 01:10:05 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

I will do a test run tomorrow with you

to make sure I am capturing all of them. This isn't like it was last fall.... and it was difficult to keep up with then, You have made heroic efforts to keep up like you do! Is your latest spreadsheet on muse? if not, would you mind emailing that to me also.... or I could ask Dude?

Let me know...

Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, that's all who ever have. ~ Margaret Mead

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by: FloridaGirl @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:56:25 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

FloridaGirl

I am currently sick.  Cough, runny nose, variable low fever (100-101), fatigue (as opposed to prostration), and asthma exacerbation. 

I don't think I can commit to doing such a thing until at least Sunday, if this takes the usual course of illness for a non-flu URI.  Currently my ability to do the sudoku level that normally takes me 7 minutes has me taking 19 for the same level puzzle; I'm not the one you want making judgements right now.

Anyone else care to give a back-up check for FG until my brain gets out of the shop, meaning today, tomorrow, and Saturday?

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by: Lisa the GP @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 03:07:25 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

Lisa, Sunday is fine

I just need to know that there is another person that can help me follow up with this.

As I told Michelle, Commonground... and I am not sure who else..... many times in the past.  This really is an important project. Others use this data to do different projects.... myself included.  Tons of people have used this lists or graphs to convince their friend and family that this is an issue they should be concerned with.

It does take some amount of preserverence... But, the people it reaches is measured in "lives saved."

Because I am in classes, I have a need for back-up... Not to mention, that most nights I am only getting 5 or 6 hours sleep... I need that other pair of eyes.
So, Thank you.....

Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, that's all who ever have. ~ Margaret Mead

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by: FloridaGirl @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 03:41:25 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

thanks FG...

and now scary delerium-like dreams. (why I'm up--note the time stamp for the pacific zone is 3am-ish)

Can't even handle a *low* fever these days.  I'll be pandemic toast.

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by: Lisa the GP @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 11:22:23 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

Yeah, I was hot high and breathless this week too. Something nasty going around. :) n/t

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by: Juliet @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 15:19:15 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

(humor) you forgot 'pilek'. n/t

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by: Lisa the GP @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 17:34:56 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Lisa, Please see my comment to Michelle.... n/t

Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, that's all who ever have. ~ Margaret Mead

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by: FloridaGirl @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:59:14 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

One thing that might help Lisa (if she's going to do this)

or whoever does, is if the translators could put a little summary at the top of whatever article they post that gives the kind of information that would go in the spreadsheet: Hospital, township, date of admission, name (or initials) age (at a minimum), plus if this is a new case. If time, they could add other brief relevant commentary. Then Lisa (or?) could just copy and paste that into her spreadsheet.

Always have a plan B.

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by: maryinhawaii @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 07:50:53 AM UTC

For whoever volunteers, the news searchers are

already doing this.  It is at this thread which is referenced at the top. 
http://www.newfluwik...

I don't do a lot of typing... I do a lot of copying and pasting.

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by: Michelle in OK @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 13:43:34 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

I looked at Michelle's link

and it's great! Remember though, this diary is for the Indonesia searchers only to post in. Commonground's new simplified format for posting "just the facts, ma'm" with all the facts listed in an orderly manner, should make it easier than I thought for someone that is familiar with data entry and Excell to take care of.

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by: bgw in MT @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 23:24:46 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

I can help out but

my timezone is different from yours ..

This will mean that the updates might not be as timely as Michelle's but I can give it a go anyway.

Let me know where to get access to the spreadsheet ..

Cheers team and go well Michelle

Eat pudding first - who know's what might happen next! - Anon

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by: AnnieB @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:45:59 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

patient have the initials LM that it was suspected suffered bird flu died

Liputan6.com, Manado: A patient have the initials LM that it was suspected suffered bird flu died, on Tuesday (30/1), after being treated in Frof space of the Public Hospital isolation.
The doctor Kandau, Manado, of North Sulawesi.
The assurance produced by the sample inspection of the deceased's blood still was waited for because still was researched in Jakarta.
The patient have the initials LM, the resident Likupang, Minahasa North this was reconciled to the hospital on Tuesday early afternoon after suffering the high and breathless fever.
The hospital side kept the identity and the patient's address secret to avoid the resident's panic around the residence.
When the patient was proven to be positive this bird flu was the first case in Manado.

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by: Influentia2 @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 11:20:00 AM UTC

New Case - Sadikin Bandung - on Vent - No Name

Caption under a patient at Sadikin.  Person is on a vent.  Don't know who this is.....
"Pasien dugaan flu burung di RS Hasan Sadikin Bandung."

Here's the full article:

The assumption patient of bird flu continued to improve, on Tuesday (30/1).
In Bandung, West Java, the Handsome Sadikin Hospital the arrival of a patient who was suspected terjangkit this deadly virus.
The resident of the Cilameta Village, Sumedang, this was reconciled to the hospital after experiencing the high fever and the crowded cough followed the existence of several chickens died suddenly.
Currently the patient is treated in Space of the Poinciana Tree Isolation.

In the Yogyakarta Special District, the medical team RS the Public the Centre of the doctor Sardjito Yogyakarta again received five new patients, four including being one family from Playen, the Gunungkidul Regency.
Beforehand this hospital treated six patients.
Therefore, the number of assumption patients avian influenza in this place reached 11 people.

This condition made all isolation space be filled up was full.
Worried, if having the new patient, this hospital would the room difficulty [read: the Patient the Assumption of Bird Flu was Again treated in RSHS].
For the last month in Yogyakarta has had 15 assumption patients of bird flu.
Two including being it was known positive and one person in fact died.

Whereas in Solo, Central Java, a child was treated in Observation Space of the regional Public Hospital of the doctor Muwardi.
This child was expected terjangkit the virus H5N1 because experienced hot high and breathless after playing with the chicken died.

Now in order to interrupts the bird flu link, the resident with perfect apparatus of the Teak Subdistrict, the Big Hut, Bekasi, West Java, destroyed 700 tails of the poultry of various kinds.
The extermination of hundreds of poultries belonging to the resident in five districts took place in the field was open the perfect Teak District.
The community hand over kept willingly.
Actually did not yet have bird flu casualties in the perfect Teak territory.
However the inhabitants agreed better prevented before falling casualties.

Whereas dozens of residents Sukatani, Cimanggis, of Depok, West Java, that was bundled into the Forum Antipeternakan the Chicken demanded the local government closed a poultry farm in the place of their settlement.
They believing, the poultry farm was really not appropriate because of becoming the source of the smell and could become the spread starting point avian influenza.
After through difficult discussions, government apparatus promised to close livestock breeding.
As far as this is concerned spraying disinfektan continued to be done.
This for example to be done by the Semarang rank of the agricultural Service, Central Java.
The official sprayed the pen as well as the house environment.
Did not forget the official checked birds as the step in giving of the certificate in the beginning.
In Kuningan, West Java, the government of the local regency will not destroy the poultry belonging to the resident how far being not yet found by the bird flu virus.
The official only gave the vaccine and appealed to the community to not maintain the poultry in the settlement.
However the number of poultries that must divaksin made vaccine supplies that only 400.000 did not fulfil the requirement that reached one million more.

The request of the livestock vaccine in Kulonprogo, Yogyakarta, also continued to increase after being found the poultry that died because of bird flu.
The side of the Service of difficulty Livestock Breeding filled the jump of the request in a short time because of the shortage of the number of officials and the vaccine.
In the meantime, the Government of the Banten Province decided to not carry out the mass extermination against the commercial poultry property of the resident.
The poultry could be still being maintained if being imprisoned to the minimal radius 25 metre from the settlement and was placed in the region was open.

Another that was carried out by villagers the Baling Hill, Muaro Jambi, of Jambi.
They at once destroyed the chicken and kept birds although not getting compensation.
This action was carried out after four villagers who were expected terjangkit avian influenza was treated in Raden Mathaher Space of the Public Hospital Isolation, the Jambi City.
The Baling Hill village was the place cluster bird flu

http://www.liputan6....
31/01/2007 06:29

I am not like other birds of prey....

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by: Commonground @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 11:22:10 AM UTC

Your post wasn't there when I looked at the diary, sorry n/t

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by: Influentia2 @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 11:40:25 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

Condensed version -update of locations of cases Lupitan6

Liputan6.com, Bandung: the assumption Patient of bird flu continued to improve, on Tuesday (30/1).
In Bandung, West Java, the Handsome Sadikin Hospital the arrival of a patient who was suspected terjangkit this deadly virus.
The resident of the Cilameta Village, Sumedang, this was reconciled to the hospital after experiencing the high fever and the crowded cough followed the existence of several chickens died suddenly.
Currently the patient is treated in Space of the Poinciana Tree Isolation.

In the Yogyakarta Special District, the medical team RS the Public the Centre of the doctor Sardjito Yogyakarta again received five new patients, four including being one family from Playen, the Gunungkidul Regency.
Beforehand this hospital treated six patients.
Therefore, the number of assumption patients avian influenza in this place reached 11 people.
This condition made all isolation space be filled up was full.
Worried, if having the new patient, this hospital would the room difficulty [read: the Patient the Assumption of Bird Flu was Again treated in RSHS].
For the last month in Yogyakarta has had 15 assumption patients of bird flu.
Two including being it was known positive and one person in fact died.

Whereas in Solo, Central Java, a child was treated in Observation Space of the regional Public Hospital of the doctor Muwardi.
This child was expected terjangkit the virus H5N1 because experienced hot high and breathless after playing with the chicken died.

-snip-

Another that was carried out by villagers the Baling Hill, Muaro Jambi, of Jambi.
They at once destroyed the chicken and kept birds although not getting compensation.
This action was carried out after four villagers who were expected terjangkit avian influenza was treated in Raden Mathaher Space of the Public Hospital Isolation, the Jambi City.
The Baling Hill village was the place cluster bird flu.

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by: Influentia2 @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 11:27:44 AM UTC

West Javanese Governor, H. Danny Setiawan stressed that his side hurriedly will not make the governor's regulation

31/01/2007Satu Again the Patient "Suspect" Bird Flu entered RSHS
  Pergub
about Bird Flu was waiting for Inpres

DIPONEGORO, (GM).
- West Javanese Governor, H. Danny Setiawan stressed that his side hurriedly will not make the governor's regulation (pergub) related the poultry arrangement in the settlement, like that was carried out by the Government of the Special Capital District of Jakarta Province.
This because of the West Javanese Provincial Government still was waiting for the appearance of the president's instruction (inpres) was related to the similar problem.
The statement of Danny Setiawan was sent after being in a meeting Plenary of the Regional Regulations Ratification the Utilisation of Space and the Territory in the Bandung Region North (KBU) in the Building of DPRD West Java, Street.
Diponegoro Bandung, on Tuesday (30/1).

-snip-

More 1 pasien

In the meantime, Handsome Sadikin Space of the Hospital Poinciana Tree (RSHS) Bandung again treated the patient suspect bird flu from Kab.Sumedang.
The patient had the initials TY (14) from Kp.
Lameta, the Leuwihideung Village, Kec.Darmaraja, this Sumedang came to RSHS on Monday night (29/1).
TY that was reconciled by RS Pakuwon Sumedang, apart from experiencing the quite high fever, also crowded and coughs.
At this time, the number of patients who was treated in Poinciana Tree Space totalling 3 people.
According to the mother TY, Juaningsih, his child indeed experienced the high fever since since five previous days.
After doing the maintenance in RS Pakuwon, TY was stated as suspect bird flu.
"When the doctor that checked saw results x-rayed, my child was stated as suspect bird flu," said Juaningsih that permitted his child to have carried out contact with the poultry that died suddenly.
"Indeed my chicken as well as had the neighbour many that died."
But for a long time, if being not one months ago wrong, explained Juaningsih.

http://www.klik-gala...

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by: Influentia2 @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 12:01:38 PM UTC

Heavy rains coming....(FYI)

COMMENT-theory is that rain makes BF worse.

Jakarta (ANTARA News) - The Meterological and Geophysical Agency (BMG) forecast that heavy rains would shower down on Jakarta and its satellite towns of Bogor, Depok, Tangerang and Bekasi in the next two days.

The rain concentration would take place in the southern parts of Jakarta and its satellite towns, like South Jakarta and the Puncak resort area in Bogor, BMG`s spokesman Ahmad Zakir Zamawi said here Tuesday.

The volume of the raifall in Jakarta and its satellite towns was predicted to reach between 50 mm and 100 mm per day.

The rains in Jakarta were not so heavy in the past week as the volume was only between 30 mm and 40 mm per day but in the next two days, there would be downpours with the volume reaching 50 mm to 100 mm per day.

"In Bogor, the rainfall was heavy on Monday (Jan 29) night as the volume reached 114 mm," he said, adding that in Bogor, rains usually fall in the afternoon or at night while in Jakarta it rains in the morning or afternoon.

He called on Jakartans especially those living near the banks of Ciliwung river to be vigilant against water flows from the river as the peak rainy season would be in January and February, 2007.

He said other areas where heavy rains would fall are the central part and western part of West Java, the northern part and central part of Central Java, and the western part of East Java.

"Heavy rains will also fall in South Kalimantan, South Sulawesi, East Nusa Tenggara and South Sumatra," he said.(*)

Copyright © 2006 ANTARA
January 31, 2007 1:3
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by: Influentia2 @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 12:18:19 PM UTC

Update on Yogyakarta

{Comment: Are they saying they want the Regional public hospitals to carry the overload?  Confused.}

Santos - Yogyakarta, the Team of the Control of Bird Flu of RS Dr. Sardjito Yogyakarta asked for the regional public hospital in the regency/the city more than one Yogyakarta carried out the blood test and x-rayed to the patient who was expected by bird flu.
If results to suspect bird flu, then immediately could be reconciled to RS Dr. Sardjito Yogyakarta.
This matter was raised by the Chairman of the Team of the Control of Bird Flu of RS Dr. Sardjito, Dr. Sumardi to ELSHINTA, this Wednesday late afternoon (31/1).

Sumardi said, the policy was taken considering the number of rooms for the handling of the patient suspect bird flu in RS Dr. Sardjito very limited, only was available 11 beds, and at this time have been filled up by 10 patients.
Then to anticipate him, the hospital was all over the Yogyakarta territory asked for more increased his care in order to the jump of the number of patients who was reconciled to RS Dr. Sardjito not happen.
"If really suspect, then immediately could be reconciled," said Sumardi.

http://www.elshinta....
31/1/2007 17:22 WIB


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by: Commonground @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 13:20:46 PM UTC

Screening

It looks like they are asking for the community hospitals to only reconcile when they have conducted full screening ie including a chest x ray, as well as other symptoms, v=before referring on.

It implies that suspect patients are being immeidiately referred to the main hospital before these investigtions have been completed - increasing their workload.

I would presume that this means that the community hospitals all have xray equipment?

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by: flumonitor @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 15:21:34 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

thanks flumonitor

they have been receiving Tamiflu in the community hospitals, and I believe x-rays also, but I'm not 100% sure.

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by: Commonground @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 15:49:01 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Yogyakarta: Not enough disinfektan...so they're recommending detergent soap powder....

POSSIBLY not yet many that knew, although the government has recommended the method most was easy to kill the bird flu virus was with the detergent soap powder.
Not only the powder was spread just like that right, certainly was mixt water was then used as the cleaner or imprisonment of birds of the poultry pen klangenan.
Could any powder of make detergent, in fact in fact soap pinched also could but more impractical because of needing a long time to make him berbusa.
According to the Section Head the Health of the Animal and Zoonosa, the agricultural Service and Animal the Yogyakarta City, drh Sri Kusniati, this virus indeed was immediately will die like that was hit by detergent.
-snip-

Sri acknowledged, since bird flu spread, he as well as his rank were busy serving the community that wanted consultations and ask for disinfektan.
A day, there were the breeder's 15-20 groups, the trader and the lover of the poultry came to ask disinfektan.
Moreover if was counted personal, the amount could even more.
There is also from outside the city like Bantul, Sleman, yes.
-snip-
Of course his agency more gave priority to the Yogyakarta City community in order to be able to fulfil the request.
His article, if the out of town inhabitants ask for the same number, possibly supplies completely fast.
Anyone or the group was given in accordance with the requirement, there are those that only 60 cc but was also more, depended the request.
His supplies now are 200 litre disinfektan, the possibility could during a month.
Because of that when I gave help also delivered in order to be able to use the method of being with detergent water easy, explained he.
http://www.suaramerd...
Rabu, 31 Januari 2007
Air Deterjen Matikan Virus Flu Burung

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by: Commonground @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 13:47:29 PM UTC

Will Tide kill flu virus? Ok, what about Cheer? Fab???

Seriously, will this soap actually "kill" the virus particles? If all they have left to disinfect chicken pens is laundry detergent, I think they're in trouble.

Always have a plan B.

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by: maryinhawaii @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:11:23 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

Megalang Update

{Comment:  Are they talking about Qumi below?  It says..."after a villager Sucen, the greetings subdistrict".  Then it says "in view of the fact that the distance of the Regency territory and the City of Magelang are very close..."}

Magelang-After a villager Sucen, the greetings Subdistrict, of the Magelang Regency died because of bird flu, the Magelang Service of City Agriculture was increasingly incessant carried out spraying disinfektan to all the poultry pens belonging to the resident.
In view of the fact that the distance of the Regency territory and the City of Magelang was very close, the headword of the agricultural Service of Bambang Sartono, then spraying must be increased.
Also was done by the vaccination against the poultry that was carried out by the community that has been trained (vaksinator).

We also established health posts and consultations concerning bird flu that was spread in 17 districts.
His working hours limited began struck 08.00-12.00.
Apart from the hour, consultations were carried out in the Office of the agricultural Service, he said on Tuesday.
After avian influenza asked for casualties in the Magelang Regency, he added, the step that was carried out was to interrupt his link.
It is best to indeed was established the animal checkpoint especially the poultry in all the Magelang City entrances.
The reason is, the certain livestock traffic through this city.
However means and the infrastructure for that were not yet available, he revealed.

http://www.suaramerd...
Rabu, 31 Januari 2007
Buka Konsultasi Flu Burung

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by: Commonground @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 14:02:46 PM UTC

Indonesia - Animated Precipitation Map

http://weather.msn.c...

It looks like it's hot heavy raining there right now.

Click here for a curious observation.

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by: JWB @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 14:56:27 PM UTC

NEW CASE - RS Sardjito

The Sardjito hospital again received one patient suspect bird flu, on Wednesday (31/1).
The patient had the initials WS, 19, the resident Godean, Sleman, of the Yogyakarta Special District (DIY) that entered RS Sardjito struck 11.
41 WIB.
Amalia Setyati, the Team of the Control Task Force of RS Sardjito Bird Flu, revealed WS the reconciliation patient from the Godean Community Health Centre.
The patient entered with the hot condition high (40.3 levels celsius), the cough and pilek.

Be based on rapid test by Puskemas Godean, WS was stated positive.
However, after being done rapid test repeated in RS Sardjito, results of the negative.

According to Amalia, his side continue to sent sample blood and dahak WS to the Laboratory of the Research And Development Hall (Balitbang) the Department of the RI Health.
With the increase of one patient, meant to have 11 patients suspect bird flu that was treated in RS Sardjito.
As a result, Kartika's space of the ward isolation that was used to treat the bird flu patient has been full.

"Kartika's ward capacity only for 11 patients."
At this time space to accommodate the patient suspect the bird flu has been full.
We will coordinate about the condition for the fullness of this space, he said
http://www.media-ind...
Rabu, 31 Januari 2007 16:31 WIB

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by: Commonground @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 16:01:11 PM UTC

Maybe a case of testing positive, person was administered Tamiflu and this led to a (false) negative on the next test.

Maybe a case of testing positive, person was administered Tamiflu and this led to a (false) negative on the next test.

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     

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by: Carol@SC @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 16:13:19 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

I think they were both "fast tests".

If so, they have only 50% accuracy, which means they are wrong half the time anyway. May as well use dice.

Always have a plan B.

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by: maryinhawaii @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:16:50 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

Sensitivity vs. specificity

MIH - on Ol' Yeller there was a thread that detailed sensitivity vs. specificity for testing.  As I can best describe it, if you design a test that is very sensitive, you have more possibility for false positives; if it is very specific, you are going to miss some positives and have more false negatives.  But in that case, the positives you have you really can trust to be positive.  So it's a bit better than a coin toss. 
As bad as it is, I do think we can trust the positives; the negatives are another story.  Too many things that can affect specimen integrity.

I'll try and find the link to the old site.

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by: Ree @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 13:26:19 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

NEW CASE - East Java

Around 250 chickens in the Gemarang Subdistrict, the Madiun Regency, East Java, that died suddenly, on Wednesday (31/1), was stated positive terinveksi the bird flu virus or H5N1.
A resident could be in fact treated and reconciled to the Province Public Hospital Dr Soedono, Madiun, because of being attacked by the sign of bird flu.
Hundreds of chickens died suddenly that happened in the densely-populated settlement in the Gemarang Village.
The official of government Livestock Breeding of the Madiun Regency that stated these chickens of the Service terindikasi the virus avian influenza (H5N1).
The official at once carried out spraying of disinfectant in chicken coops of several residents, who it was known died suddenly.
According to the Village Head Gemarang, Suprapti, on Wednesday, from eight RT in his territory, hundreds of tails of the chicken that died suddenly and it was reported the resident, several of the him was checked positive was attacked by bird flu.

A local resident had the initials human resources, 48, had the story, totalling seven nonpedigreed chickens that were maintained by him, also died suddenly.

According to the official's medical information, when human resources were treated in the Gemarang Community Health Centre, it was known suffered the upper respiratory tract infection (ISPA).
For possibility investigation of human resources was attacked by the bird flu virus, this patient was run off with to the Hospital Dr Soedono, Madiun

http://www.media-ind...
Rabu, 31 Januari 2007 20:10 WIB

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by: Commonground @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 16:11:32 PM UTC

More Info, New Name - Sdkm

The plague of bird flu, apparently only did not attack the poultry, one of the villagers Gemarang, the Gemarang subdistrict, of the Madiun Regency, Sdkm (60th) currently was treated in the Public Hospital (RSU) Soedono, Madiun because of being expected by bird flu.
At this time the medical official from RSU Soedono still observed further to Sdkm.

According to the Gemarang village village head, Suprapti, beforehand Sdkm
was treated in the Gemarang community health centre then was reconciled to the Soedono hospital because of being expected suspect bird flu.
"He the cough, pilek and the fever that never will descend since the last three days," terag him.
Moreover, continued Suprapti, this man mempunyai
the experience had been touching with the chicken that died because positive bird flu.
"His seven property chickens died suddenly."
And he held the chicken died this and threw him away to the river, pungkas him.
http://www.tempointe...
Rabu, 31 Januari 2007 | 22:30 WIB

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by: Commonground @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 17:51:29 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

FAO Sponsored Training with GPS.....

Don't even ask me how I found this....just kept clicking away at one site.....

According to the Head Sub the Health Service of the Animal, the East Java Service of province Livestock Breeding, Drh Irawan Subijanto MSi was met in his office in Street Ahmad Yani Surabaya, on Monday (29/1), the team's readiness after being stated passed followed the Local Desease Crisis Center training (LDCC) six days (21-27) in the Tuban Regency.
"Mereka was supplied by transport means, communication and the position detector of the centre of the incident or GPS (Global Positioning System to trace the existence of bird flu in his area masing-masing," he said

The training that was financed by the Body of world Food (FAO) this went very tight.
That was proven had one participant from the Madiun City that late was not permitted to join the training.
The number of his participants was then restricted, they only wanted received 13 as far as 16 people then.
They were supplied by the theory and the practice of the conduct identified the existence of bird flu in an area, the method investigated the tracks of bird flu as well as steps that must be taken in a fast, exact and professional manner.

The LDCC training involved the tutor in from America taking place since May 2006, his participants were chosen from respectively the regency/the city in a manner rotated.
One regency/the city of one PDS team and one PDR team respectively the numbering team of two people.
However the number according to Irawan, it was felt was not yet balanced with the range of the regency territory of the area/the city in East Java.
"Kami will lodge the request to increase the personnel lagi," he revealed.
Apart from in East Java, the training of this kind was also carried out in the Central Javan province, West Java, Lampung, the Yogyakarta Special District (DIY), the Special Capital District of Jakarta (the Special Capital District), Banten and North Sumatra.

The training was one of the efforts to anticipate expanded him the plague of the virus H5N1 in East Java.
Beforehand, last January 23 2007, the East Java province passed Governor's Regulation (Pergub) the number 3 in 2007 about the Handling of Bird Flu.
Pergub contained the handling regulation of the poultry, from the conduct of the maintenance of the poultry, poultry business administration, the material from the poultry, results of the material from the poultry, penatalaksanaan the case of bird flu to humankind, the protection to the high risk group, surveilans bird flu epidemiology as well as the increase in the awareness of the community.

http://www.jatim.go....
Berita Kesehatan - Dinas Informasi dan Komunikasi, 30-01-2007 07:07 WIB -

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by: Commonground @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 16:41:44 PM UTC

Situbondo - East Java - Update on procedures

Situbondo: in connection with the discovery of one of the sufferers suspek bird flu in and around the Ayuban housing environment, the Mimbaan District, the Standard Subdistrict some time before, the Situbondo Service of Regency Livestock Breeding since last Saturday at once carried out spraying boi security the fectan, in fact this spraying activity was continued on last Monday morning by doing spraying around the Market of the Standard Poultry, Pengepul the Chicken and animal abattoirs unaggas in the Territory of the Standard Subdistrict.
-snip-
Moreover the Situbondo Service of Regency Livestock Breeding all the time carried out the socialisation of the prevention and the handling of the eradication of the AI virus to the community, now for the process of spraying bio security the fectan this the Livestock Breeding Service prepared hundreds of packages of syringe medicine bisafack that was made function as the killer of the AI virus.
http://www.jatim.go....
Berita peternakan - Dinas Infokom & PDE Kab. Situbondo, 30-01-2007 09:09 WIB -

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by: Commonground @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 16:50:55 PM UTC

4 Subdistricts - Yogyakarta Stated BF Danger - 99% poultry rapid tests positive n/t

Excerpt:
Four subdistricts in the Kulonprogo Regency, Yogyakarta was stated by the bird flu danger.
The four subdistricts that is the Lendah Subdistrict, Sentolo, Wates and the Groove.
This matter was stated following the discovery of several poultries died, that from results rapid test showed 99 percent positive bird flu.

http://www.metrotvne...
Rabu, 31 Januari 2007 20:09 WIB

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by: Commonground @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 17:38:28 PM UTC

Will someone post an executive summary for the month of January/Indonesia?

Makasih di muka!!!

Click here for a curious observation.

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by: JWB @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 18:14:50 PM UTC

JWB - Wouldn't that be that HUGE list at the beginning of this diary? :-) n/t

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by: Commonground @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 18:48:21 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Good Point! That does kinda sum it up! Followed with a big "WOW" nt

Click here for a curious observation.

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by: JWB @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 19:06:48 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Is anyone good at making graphs?

a bar graph comparing suspect cases by hospital area would tell alot, as would a graph showing the suspect cases each day over the month of January.

I'd suggest graphs that removed the "negatives" only we have no idea how accurate they are, so our best bet at this point is to simply leave them in.

I can try to put the data into graph forms, but I'm not sure how I would post it...I am definitely at the C- grade when it comes to computer savvy.

Always have a plan B.

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by: maryinhawaii @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:34:56 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

Summarys are good

I've been trying to creat a summary in the discussion section.

A big picture 4 or 5 sentence paragraph is helpful.

Data is good, but needs to be put in context.

I just don't have to time to do any serious analysis with any degree of accuracy.

For example,  there are a lot of "cases",

Very few deaths.

The implication is that the CFR has fallen to 10%.

or

The deaths are no longer being reported.

or

Tamiflu is working as planned.

or

The worried sick are presenting to the hospitals, instead of toughing it out at home.

Does anyone remember the "quiet before the storm", December 2006?

Just rolling along, making waves and causing trouble...

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by: pablo escobar @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 19:07:49 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

NEW CASE - Friendship

Asien was suspected bird flu entered again the Friendship Hospital, Jakarta East.
"Semalam entered the male child had the initials R, 2 years, from the Coconut Hut, said the hospital spokesperson, Ani Reputrawati, in Jakarta today.
According to Ani, R was reconciled by the Jakarta Ethnic Group of the Health Service East.
"Ia experienced the sign that was similar to bird flu, he said.

R suffered the headache, breathless, and the quite high fever.
However, until this, he was not yet it was confirmed positive or was not affected by bird flu.
"Hasil his test did not yet go out because the sample was just taken earlier pagi," Ani words.
R became the only patient suspek bird flu that still was treated in the hospital.
Yesterday, special isolation space the hospital bird flu has been empty.
http://www.tempointe...
Rabu, 31 Januari 2007 | 17:56 WIB

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by: Commonground @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 18:56:59 PM UTC

so Friendship is nearly empty?

Great. So now we have to *guess* which cases have gone home.

I guess it's better than the reverse...

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by: Juliet @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 19:04:43 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

what did I miss?

One minute the hospitals were putting out tents for extra room, now they are emptying?

Is this for real or are we seeing the effects of 'national emergency' already?



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...

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by: SusanC @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 19:10:49 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

This doesn't make sense to me.

Maybe disinformation released or maybe the reporter got it wrong? I hope it is correct but I am skeptical based on what we have been seeing for the past few days.

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     

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by: Carol@SC @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 19:55:55 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Maybe it's efficient H2H and the hospital is too contaminated to use anymore.

Just an idea. Probably very wrong. I hope!

Click here for a curious observation.

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by: JWB @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 20:06:48 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

I think this is a link to the location (around Jakarta).

I had to look up the pre-translated location.

http://encarta.msn.c...

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by: Michelle in OK @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 23:43:52 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Assistance from China

The Chinese government gave help of the medical instrument to Indonesia.
This help was aimed for the Province of Nanggroe Aceh Darussalam and the Nias Island, North Sumatra.
"Total help that was given by us as big as US$ 2,13 million, including 26 equipment kinds medis," the Ambassador's Chinese words to Indonesia, Lan Lijun, in the Department of the Health, on Wednesday (31/1).

More  http://www.tempointe...
Rabu, 31 Januari 2007 | 18:28 WIB

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by: Commonground @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 19:01:52 PM UTC

again, no cash n/t

All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...

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by: SusanC @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 19:09:14 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Two new sus cases in Pandeglang Regency / husband & wife

toggletext-ed from Indonesian:

Two was expected by Bird Flu
Ritual [Protest?] Deny the Army in Tangerang
Feb 01, 2007

Serang, Kompas - Two residents of the Sabi Tangtu Village, the Bangkonol Village, of the Karangtanjung Subdistrict, the Pandeglang Regency, Banten, on Wednesday (31/1), was treated in special space the maintenance of the Serang patient of bird flu of the regional Public Hospital.  They were the husband and wife's couple, Arsak Rosadi (59) and Tini Sutini (54).

Both of them began to be treated in RSUD Serang since yesterday around struck 17.00.  Arsak and Tini were forced to be treated in special space the bird flu patient because of being stated was expected by the illness.

According to casualties's child, Syukur Sulaiman (27), his parents began to feel the fever and breathless on Saturday (27/1).  "Initially my father who was sick.  After passing the place of the disposal of the chicken carcass died, then spread to my mother.  Already this Sunday they did not yet recover-recovered," he said.

Arsak and Tini could memeriksakan himself to the local community health centre, but never recovered.  His family then brought them to RSUD Serang after being refused by RSUD Pandeglang on the basis of being full.

Iis Sutrisna, the person responsible for special space the bird flu patient of RSUD Serang, explained, both of them were still being expected by bird flu.  The clinical sign that was experienced by the husband- the wife was similar to the sign that emerged resulting from bird flu, like the high fever, the cough, and breathless.

Three weeks, hundreds of chickens belonging to the resident in the Sabi Tangtu Village died suddenly.  The previous owner threw the chicken carcass in the well in the garden close to the settlement of the inhabitants away.  A chicken was belonging to the resident stated positive terjangkit the bird flu virus.

Ritual denied the army

In the Tangerang City, ordered the government of the centre to destroy the poultry that lived around the settlement, on Wednesday, was refused by the resident RT 05 and RT 06 RW 01, the District Panunggangan North, the Penang Subdistrict, and the lover's Community of the Poultry [Masyarakat Pencinta Unggas].  They held ritual [protest?] denied the army for the sake of the safety and the health of the poultry in several pens of the resident's poultry.

Ritual denied the army was for the poultry done by parading two ritual offerings take the form of tumpeng from the resident's house headed the poultry pen.  Ustadz Humam with Saiman, the Chairman RT 05, Juman (the Chairman RT 06), Suryadi (the Chairman RW 01), the Chairman MPU Wowok Hesti Prabowo, and the resident afterwards held the prayer together it was continued ate tumpeng.

In Jakarta, today the Special Capital District of Jakarta Livestock Breeding Service with the regional government's other apparatus spreads out the poultry raid in the settlement together with the ending of the poultry of the extermination deadline on February 1.

The data from Directorate General's Bird Flu Command Post the Control of the Illness and the Community's Sanitation, the Department of the Health mentioned, since 2005 was to January 2007 received by 81 positive patients bird flu and 63 including dying.

"Specially the Special Capital District of Jakarta, since 2005 was gotten by 20 positive patients bird flu and 18 including dying," said Arman, the official of the command post.

http://www.kompas.co...

Pandeglang Regency, Banten Province:  http://id.wikipedia....

Proud FAF-er.

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by: Theresa42 @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 19:26:40 PM UTC

I can't imagine how anybody could be so irresponsible!

There is just no sane reason why this action was taken! I will be very surprised if more cases aren't seen in this area in the next few days.
"The previous owner threw the chicken carcass in the well in the garden close to the settlement of the inhabitants away."

Possible cluster?
"Initially my father who was sick..... then spread to my mother."

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     

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by: Carol@SC @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 20:08:31 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Probably an abandoned hand dug well

Or a well no longer used by anyone.  This was once very common in the US.  Folks would use abandoned wells as places to dump garbage.  It did not occur to them that groundwater moves and what goes in the well contaminates the aquifer.  If it is fairly close and up gradient from a well used for drinking water then it will eventually contaminate the drinking water well.

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by: Okieman @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 02:10:14 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

It sounds like only the father passed the chicken well

quote: "Initially my father who was sick.  After passing the place of the disposal of the chicken carcass died, then spread to my mother."

So, the question: where did the mother get it? They apparently got sick one after the other, maybe within a day...could the woman get infected by the man and come down with it that quickly?

Did it mention how many days had passed from the time the father passed by the chicken well to when he got sick?

Always have a plan B.

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by: maryinhawaii @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:45:39 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

The other patient we have from Serang

is A/S (14) who is in Sulianti Saroso. 

RSUD Kab Serang is shown on the WHO website as being the avian influenza referral hospital for Banten.

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by: Michelle in OK @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 23:56:54 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Destroy Bird Flu must involve the Muslim Scholar

In accordance with Islam islamic canon law and hadist, said Sigit, menyembelih the animal must be fast as well as sharpened the knife that will be used so as the animal that will be killed will not be tortured or suffered.
"The problem is, now, we witnessed destroyed the poultry as efforts to anticipate bird flu by burning him."

How our heart that went along witnessed from nearby burnt the poultry like the chicken, without killing him before.  {Comment:  Yours and mine both....}
"Pemprovsu was also asked for selective, whatever that really suspect and whatever that brought casualties."

The side of the balance of nature, said Sigit, the extermination of the poultry that was not controlled without involving Islam islamic canon law in bringing the impact of the negative in this territory as well as damaging the nature ecosystem or the life link.
"I in fact felt injustice in destroying the poultry was treated serampangan so as brought multiplyer effect directed the negative in North Sumatra."
"We indeed did not realise destruction" of the "nature link if not having again the poultry, but that definitely will emerge when arriving during him."

In fact, said Sigit, the SARS plague with the facilitator of the pig was not destroyed in a cluster manner or spread everywhere.
"So we should not see the problem" of "bird flu with the horse spectacles so as to have to pay attention to the aspect" of the "culture, social, the religion and economics from the problem that was caused."

Sigit also protested against the Pemprovsu intention of making Regional Regulations about the wild animal by catching all the wandering poultry.
"This not the educational method that could give the benefit."
This was the government method that will cause panic and lost the direction.
"
More again far, Sigit proposed the regional regulation (Regional Regulations) the circulation traffic of the poultry as the territory of the province law.
"We must determine the circulation" of the "poultry."
Whereas bird flu Regional Regulations could be done by the government of the regency or the city that became the area of the spreading.

http://www.waspada.c...
31 Jan 07 23:01 WIB

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by: Commonground @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 19:31:39 PM UTC

Speculative dengue stuff from Bekasi & Tangerang...

5 recent deaths from Dengue in Bekasi -- and 2 in Tangerang...

Already 5 patients died
On Wednesday January 31 2007, the Hour: 22:15:00

Bekasi (the City Post) - Other the patient of dengue fever dengue fever (DBD) died in RSUD Bekasi, yesterday.  Hasbi, 14, the resident Street. IV teak, Bekasi, died after being treated in ICU (intensive care the unit) several times.

This Hasbi death increased the row of the DBD case died in RSUD the Bekasi City till yesterday became three people.  Beforehand, Suprihatin, 55, and Paimin, 60, also died with because that was same.

Agus Sarjoko, the staff public relations RSUD the Bekasi City, said Hasbi entered RSUD in 28/1 with the assumption of the suspect DBD. Because the condition has been serious, then Rusdi was treated in space of ICU. Agus mentioned up to now has been recorded by 74 cases of the DBD suspect with 9 positive DBD and 3 cases died.

H. Bachrum, RSUD Kota Bekasi Deputy Director, said that the community more was on the alert against DBD. the Article, many patients who were carried to RSUD in the situation that has been late.  "Because DBD did not yet have his medicine, except only infusions.  If fast, then can be more get well soon," he said.

In the meantime, Dr. Bambang DS, the Section Head the Health, appealed to the community in order to increase the quality of the healthy life by guarding the cleanliness of the environment.

In the meantime, two people from 54 Tangerang inhabitants, have died after terjangkit dengue fever dengue fever (DBD).  Because, the rank of the Tangerang Municipal Government was with the resident asked for to serious handled the eradication of the mosquitoes nest (PSM) aedes agepty all over his territory.

Wawan Tavip, the Member DPRD the Tangerang City from PKS, yesterday stated his concern by spreading him DBD in the Tangerang City.  The illness resulting from the happy mosquitoes bite breeding in clear water and became an epidemic in the season pancaroba this, must be minimised by means of doing the movement of his eradication.

Now Tangerang Mayor H. Wahidin Halim in being in a meeting the co-ordination with the section head and the sub-district head in the town hall, on Wednesday (31/1) ordered the sub-district head as the official in the field to have to be preceptive DBD and deal with rebakan the illness by coordinating with the related agency.

http://www.poskota.c...

Proud FAF-er.

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by: Theresa42 @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 19:48:06 PM UTC

Bandung KLB denuge...

Bandung KLB DBD
Feb 01, 2007

trans:  Bandung state-of-emergency dengue

http://www.pikiran-r...

Proud FAF-er.

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by: Theresa42 @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 20:56:07 PM UTC

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Cimahi City, West Java dengue KLB

Rabu, 31 Januari 2007 23:05 WIB  http://www.metrotvne...

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by: Pixie @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 21:44:19 PM UTC

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This could be a real problem...

This article was translated by Inluentia2/Clark back on Jan 27th...

"Cimahi North, the Cimahi City was stated postif bird flu.
Belasan this chicken died suddenly in a beruntun manner this Sunday.  It was startling, a dog that one pen with this chicken took part in dying and being it was suspected attacked by the virus H5N1."

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by: Michelle in OK @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 23:17:15 PM UTC

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New sus case in Bandung / DS (30)

toggletext-ed from Indonesian:

The poinciana tree Again treated the Patient Suspect Burung Flu
Feb 01, 2007

RSHS, (GM). - Handsome Sadikin Space of the Hospital Poinciana Tree (RSHS) Bandung again received the patient suspect bird flu.  This patient it was known had the initials DS (30), the inhabitants Kp. Bantar Gebang, the Mekar Sari Village, Kec. Ngamprah, Kab. Bandung, on Wednesday (31/1) approximately struck 13.30 WIB.

The patient DS came on Santosa Hospital reconciliation, with the typical sign of bird flu, namely the high fever, the cough was accompanied breathless.  After approximately 30 minutes underwent observation in IGD space, DS then was sent to Poinciana Tree Space approximately struck 14.00 WIB.

In this way, the number of patients who currently undergoes the maintenance in the Poinciana Tree to 4 people.  Was based on the recapitulation, DS was the patient suspect 84th bird flu.

According to the wife DS, Ela Karmila (23), his husband began to experience the high fever since last week.  After beforehand had 2 chickens belonging to his neighbour who died suddenly.

"The distance of my house with the neighbouring house only terhalang five houses," said Ela while adding, his husband maintained 3 chickens that were fenced in close to the kitchen.

Saw his condition that never will recover, Ela decided to bring his husband to the community health centre was treated.  Because of the medical team of this community health centre said could not to treat, he had finally been carried to RS Santosa.

"My husband was only checked for a moment.  The medical team there said, if peyakit my husband headed to bird flu and immediately must be treated in RSHS," clear Ela.

Although admitting to indeed experiencing contact with the poultry that died suddenly, Ela said, fully did not believe if his husband terjangkit the bird flu virus.  Because, said Ela, already two DS years suffered the illness in the part of the lungs.

"My husband indeed often breathless because from the last two years, he was sick the lungs," he explained again without informed the illness kind what was suffered by DS.

In the meantime Dedi (47), the chairman RT local admitted to not receiving the report had the chicken that died suddenly from his resident.  "As far as this is concerned, I found as well as heard the report from the resident who said his kept chicken died," said Dedi.

It was not yet hasil

In the meantime, results of the sample inspection of blood and apus two patients from Banjaran, Kab. Bandung, R (60) and WN (4) that was sent to the Body of Health Research And Development (Balitbangkes) RI in Jakarta, still not clear whether the grandfather and his grandchild headed to bird flu or not.  Nevertheless, according to one of the medical teams of Poinciana Tree Space, the condition both of them continued to improve [membaik].  The same thing was also felt by TY (14) from Kp. Lameta, the Leuwi Hideung Village, Kec. Darmaraja, Sumedang that also it was reported continued to improve [membaik].

In the meantime, after undergoing twice the inspection, YS (44) from Sukagalih, Kec. Sukajadi, Bandung as far as this is concerned still was stated by the negative.  The legality of these results still could not prove if YS really the negative was infected by bird flu.  His article, YS must undergo 2 times more the blood inspection and apus.

http://www.klik-gala...

Proud FAF-er.

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by: Theresa42 @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 20:36:53 PM UTC

Suspect patient (LM) in Manado, North Sulawesi, dies

The patient was suspected of suffering Bird Flu died

31/01/2007 13:31  http://www.liputan6....

Liputan6.com, Manado: A patient have the initials LM that it was suspected suffered bird flu died, on Tuesday (30/1), after being treated in Frof space of the Public Hospital isolation. The doctor Kandau, Manado, of North Sulawesi.The assurance produced by the sample inspection of the deceased's blood still was waited for because still was researched in Jakarta.

The patient have the initials LM, the resident Likupang, Minahasa North this was reconciled to the hospital on Tuesday early afternoon after suffering the high and breathless fever. The hospital side kept the identity and the patient's address secret to avoid the resident's panic around the residence. When the patient was proven to be positive this bird flu was the first case in Manado.
(YYT/Aldrien Wise)

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by: Pixie @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 21:24:30 PM UTC

pugmom already had him, sorry

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by: Pixie @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 21:56:13 PM UTC

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pixie

sorry to use this, you got email.  Need reply soon ;-)



All 'safety concerns' are hypothetical.  If not, they'd be called side effects...

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by: SusanC @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 22:03:17 PM UTC

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New case/death - Joni Iskandar (10)

The illness: the Child died with the Sign similar to Burung
Flu

Rabu, 31 Januari 2007 http://www.lampungpo...

WAYSERDANG (Lampost): Joni Iskandar (10), the resident RT 02/08, the Multicoloured Village, of the Way Serdang Subdistrict, Tulang Bawang, died with the sign similar to bird flu, on Tuesday (30-1), struck 01.00,  Joni blew out the last breath 10 minutes after arriving in the Wayan Pasek house, the local official. Wayan expected this child terjangkit bird flu. This was seen from the characteristics of casualties who experienced the high and breathless fever.

"When arriving here, his condition has been very critical." I only could handle his 10 previous minutes died, said Wayan. Casualties's father, Amber, said his son since last week the high fever. However he did not carry him to the hospital because of thinking only common fevers.
"Beforehand I was not suspicious." Thought by me my child is sick normally because of the season pancaroba this, he said.But, increasingly the temperature day of the Joni body increasingly high and since the last three days was seen by the breathing difficulty. At "that time was seen by me my child the difficulty breathed, as being affected by asthma," he said. Saw the situation, Amber immediately brought to the Wayan Pasek house to immediately get the maintenance. However, Joni could only remain for 10 minutes and died in the Wayan house.

The assumption of the death of casualties resulting from bird flu also was sent by the Multicoloured Village Head, Amir Trilangka. He said in two last weeks of many poultries in his territory was found died suddenly.However, the community did not yet report the incident.The community thought only because of the change factor in the season. Moreover, there were those who considered their livestock was affected by the newcastle disease."Moreover, a cow was also found died suddenly," said he.

The Joni death, that it was suspected resulting from bird flu, at once stirred up the local resident. They worried the deadly illness virus spread all through the village. "Currently, with the incident that struck the Amber family, our resident was very restless and worried," said Suyanto, the local public figure. So, he asked the government immediately to anticipate the possibility of the outbreak of the bird flu virus of not infecting the other resident. "We expected the agency's related service immediately to handle this incident."We worried will fall following casualties,he said. UAN/U-2

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by: Pixie @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 22:05:02 PM UTC

Pixie, don't forget to throw this over to the Case Diary n/t

I am not like other birds of prey....

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by: Commonground @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 22:57:08 PM UTC

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will do

you did incredible heavy lifting today, CG!

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by: Pixie @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 23:13:47 PM UTC

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I know, I felt very alone.....busy day. The only

thing I'm wondering now about is all the Dengue.  Didn't someone say a rash does not always appear?  How can they tell then?  How can we be sure it is all Dengue cases?

I am not like other birds of prey....

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by: Commonground @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 00:03:38 AM UTC

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Okieman

can you find this place on a map?  I am having difficulty locating it.  It is somewhere in Sumatra, Lampung region.

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by: Pixie @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 23:39:26 PM UTC

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Bawang or Tulangbawang Sumatra maps

Bawang on Southern tip of Sumatra, should be in Lampung province

http://encarta.msn.c...

http://www.mapquest....

Tulangbawang, near Medan, North Sumatra

http://encarta.msn.c...

There is a river by that name:

http://encarta.msn.c...

You want perspective. I want perspective. Let's talk. We don't have to agree on every thing. If we do, one of us is redundant.

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by: anon.yyz @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 00:16:32 AM UTC

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Tough one

I have not been able to locate any more than anon.yyz has found.  Sorry.  I have found that some of the places in Sumatra have different spellings than what is in my data set.  I believe there are multiple languages in Sumatra that cause the problem.  Just my interpretation.

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by: Okieman @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 02:56:11 AM UTC

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What a day. 8 New Suspected Cases. 2 Deaths. :-( n/t

I am not like other birds of prey....

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by: Commonground @ Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 22:55:49 PM UTC

Hang in there commonground.

I'm trying to wrap up some things at work tommorrow. If I do, I'll step in for you on Friday. At the very least, if you email me some of the articles, I'll translate, read and highlight and post what is needed.

I can't just reap what you people are doing without pitching in. I gotta help in some way.

Thanx everyone.

What a month.

What an effort.

Click here for a curious observation.

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by: JWB @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:28:41 AM UTC

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Thanks a heap, it really helps to know I'm not alone. n/t

I am not like other birds of prey....

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by: Commonground @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:54:45 AM UTC

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I am concerned about the Dengue with no rash too.

I really have been questioning this ever since I saw the article posted. You have "been a busy little bee" today. It is very much appreciated. Thanks.

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     

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by: Carol@SC @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:49:19 AM UTC

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Commonground the comments above were meant for you.

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --Unknown

     

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by: Carol@SC @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:50:39 AM UTC

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Yes, Carol@SC, I don't even open the Dengue cases. That is just to overwhelming to me.... n/t

I am not like other birds of prey....

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by: Commonground @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:55:45 AM UTC

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I will forward the Jan 31 spreadsheet to Dude tonight.

It may take a day or so for it to get posted.

As you've seen, I started a Feb 1 diary without the case list to give someone a chance to get on their feet tracking before trying also to maintain that list.  If you will start the next diary, when Dem or another Mod has time, they can paste in the codes for the maps, etc.  Then all you have to do in starting a new diary is to copy it over and change the "prior diary" link.

The last sheet in the Excel spreadsheet contains the html code for the case list.  I just copy/paste from the 2007 tracking list to that sheet by hospital.  Then I copy/paste from the spreadsheet into the diary.  That part, however, is very time consuming.  I've used color codes daily as I'm tracking to trace which changes were posted there and which weren't.  You may or may not want to continue that.

The second sheet in the spreadsheet has the code for the nightly table.  The Excel formulas are a little difficult when adding a new month, so I'll try to get Feb set up if you want to use them.  There are really too many changes to track manually.

Best wishes to you.  If you have questions, just respond to this comment and I'll try to check back to answer for the next few days.

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by: Michelle in OK @ Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:30:34 AM UTC

Michelle, Thank you ... I hope

I can do half the job that you did... because I only know about half as much about excel as you...

I will keep the list going, and I will try to keep links on a separate copy so that if there is a question, then we can find it easier.

I am near the end of one class, and my next class will either begin at the end of February or the end of March.  That will probably not be as ideal as we would hope, since tax season is not yet over.

Yes, please stick around for questions and everything else.  I am sure I wll have many!.

I will see if Dude has posted the spreadsheet yet...

Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, that's all who ever have. ~ Margaret Mead

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by: FloridaGirl @ Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 02:50:47 AM UTC

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Michelle, One more question

Ha! fooled you....

No, I really do have a question...

Do you have a list of the hospital numbers you are using to sort?  That would come in handy. 

I finally finished that dang paper and turned it in. So I have one more project to complete for this class. 

I already feel like I am falling behind, although I know I am not really.  I just need to figure out all the html stuff...

I will be working on this tonight and tomorrow night.  Hope you are around.

Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, that's all who ever have. ~ Margaret Mead

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by: FloridaGirl @ Mon Feb 05, 2007 at 01:59:29 AM UTC

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ah FloridaGirl, I'm not Michelle but I was wondering

do you have access to the html that Michelle used to format the Indo table? 'Cause if you don't I could e-mail it to you.

Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little- Edmund Burke

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by: MaMa @ Mon Feb 05, 2007 at 02:02:46 AM UTC

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MaMa! THAT would be great!

Trying to figure out new html right now is driving me crazy.

  Email me at floridagirl@singtomeohmuse.com

And any other suggestions you can offer would be great!.  It is just difficult getting started on this while I still have a week of school left.  The only thing I am able to do at night, is go through the days diaries for new patients, or changes and create the new diary.

I'm open to new ideas and any suggestions you guys have.

Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, that's all who ever have. ~ Margaret Mead

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by: FloridaGirl @ Mon Feb 05, 2007 at 02:36:17 AM UTC

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I just e-mailed it to you

Hope that is useful. Anything else I can do to help out, just let me know.

Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little- Edmund Burke

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by: MaMa @ Mon Feb 05, 2007 at 02:56:03 AM UTC

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would you also like the html code for the 'estimated list of cases in 2007', shown in the opening comment of the Jan.30-31 Indo Diary

I'm not sure if you already have that or not, or if you'd like to work on other areas first. Whatever seems best to you.

Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little- Edmund Burke

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by: MaMa @ Mon Feb 05, 2007 at 03:06:10 AM UTC

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Sure MaMa send it to me... Can't hurt!

I was sure I would have everything figured out by tonight. But, it seems I have run out of time for play.

Let me just say... Michelle has put a LOT of work into this spreadsheet! What a masterpiece!

I can surely say, I have a new appreciation for her knowledge.  But, I am getting comfortable with it.  I just hope I understand it the way she THINKS I do.

We will see...

Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, that's all who ever have. ~ Margaret Mead

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by: FloridaGirl @ Mon Feb 05, 2007 at 04:11:10 AM UTC

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done! let me know if you need anything else

I'm happy to help out if I can.

Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little- Edmund Burke

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by: MaMa @ Mon Feb 05, 2007 at 04:22:19 AM UTC

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Mama, parent up and read my question, Tx n/t

Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, that's all who ever have. ~ Margaret Mead

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by: FloridaGirl @ Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 03:55:21 AM UTC

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MaMa, Sent you an Email n/t

Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, that's all who ever have. ~ Margaret Mead

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by: FloridaGirl @ Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 03:59:18 AM UTC

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Michelle, I got the spreadsheet from Muse

Thank you... So looking at it I have a couple of questions to start with.

1.  It appears you are now keeping the spreadsheet with an upper portion of patients that have either been released or have died....  Is that right?

2. Summary Sort # Month Table
What are these headings?  Are these just for sorting?
Would you mind explaining it so I do not guess wrong...  I have an idea.... but....

3.  Under Vent/ICU  you have just been putting a "*" to indicate that they were in ICU at some time... Is that correct?

Ok.. enough for now..... My last 2500 word paper is due tomorrow night... (No, I haven't started it  :) )...
I just have a project due next week, that I will be working on. By Sunday, I will be able to devote more time to this... and Lisa did say she would help. 

OK... Let me see if I can get hold of the links to stuff... I will need to figure out how to build tables on Sunday.  Thank goodness I already figured out how to post that graph... (with Dem's help of course.).

Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, that's all who ever have. ~ Margaret Mead

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by: FloridaGirl @ Sat Feb 03, 2007 at 02:56:45 AM UTC

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FloridaGirl, you're doing great.

To answer your questions, as best I can:

1.  I did split out the upper portion for patients who had been released or died, but that was really only for my use in creating the list at the top of each thread.  I had fewer lines to sort through that way.  The red descriptions I only added for your use.  If I had continued with the spreadsheet, I would have deleted the red lines and then resorted from time to time by the column called "released" to get the separation again.  I didn't move people up manually.  I just added blank lines between the two groups for visual effect.

Note:  in sorting, I always pointed at the row number to the far left and highlighted down to ensure all fields were captured.  If you are sorting all the data, you can include the heading row (and mark the heading box) to make the labels appear.

2.  I started that method way back in 2006 when I was trying to become familiar geographically with Indonesia.  I printed a map from Wikipedia of the provinces and used Encarta to try and create a list on the "Headings" tab that would go from upper Northeast, down through Sumatra and Java islands, and back up through Sulawesi.  When new locations showed up, I would insert rows on the headings sheet in the correct geographical locations, and then highlight the top numbers in column D on that sheet and drag down to renumber everything.  In this manner, when the formulas in the pink column on the main sheet were maintained, I could sort by that Sort # and all locations in close geographic range would be grouped together. Otherwise, if I tried to sort by the typed in location, they were alphabetical and had no useful order.

Note:  Here lately, there were so many new locations that I didn't have time to put them in the correct geographic order within their region.  I was doing good to just get W. Java, etc. grouped together.  This list can be rearranged at any time and the effects will flow through to the main page.

3.  Yes, that is correct and started being done per Susan C's request.  I only started mid-January, so patients in early January weren't done.

One last note, the lines in bold blue are for Okieman's use.  They are the lines which have been added since he last did a map.  (We couldn't really use dates, because sometimes patients are reported retroactively and we would miss them.)  If you keep them in blue and make new patients you add in blue, then when you have Dude load the spreadsheet, Okieman can sort by location and easily tell which patients are new.  Once you send in the spreadsheet, make all the lines normal font and start the process over again.  (This also helps you  quickly identify recent cases to prevent duplicates from occuring.)

Thanks again for taking on this work.  I hope your paper and final projects go well.  I'll keep checking back here to answer questions.

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by: Michelle in OK @ Sat Feb 03, 2007 at 13:54:53 PM UTC

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Michelle, AnnieB, or Mama,

A couple of questions if you do not mind.

1st.  When you are sorting for the table.  The columns for Jan. Feb ... and so on... What is the criteria for the patient being placed in which month?

Is itdate of admission or date of the test results back?

In other words...  Patient is admitted in January (also onset of symptoms), is tested,..... first test results are negative..... gets retested IN FEB ...... the second test results are postive....  Which column would that patient be in? Jan or Feb?

Would he have already been counted in Jan? and that needs to be changed?  Change the n to p or +d in the sort column?

Boy, I know Michelle's mind is filled with these details!

Changing her methodology would mess up those numbers and I do not want to do that.

Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, that's all who ever have. ~ Margaret Mead

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by: FloridaGirl @ Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 03:54:01 AM UTC

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FloridaGirl, I have sent you an email

to your "singtome" address - not sure how often you check it.

I need to understand which "table" you are updating - the one that also goes into the News Diary or the big "all cases, ongoing" one?

I cn send you the coding for the "News Summary" table to save you re-inventing it.

As to your question - I do not know what Michelle's "rules" were - I would be guided by WHO for positive cases - they record for the month that the result is given, so, in your example, they would come off the Jan -ve tally and go on the Feb =ve tally - hope that makes sense and helps ;-)

Eat pudding first - who know's what might happen next! - Anon

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by: AnnieB @ Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 04:01:26 AM UTC

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FloridaGirl, about the table...

I simply used the first date shown for a case (whether it was symptoms, hospitalized, or reported) to assign them a month in the table.  Once in January, they stayed in January, even if they got test results back in February.  My reasoning for this was to keep any potential outbreaks grouped together by the time of the illness, regardless of later developments.  That is why the January numbers could change, even in February.

Also, to AnnieB or anyone else able to access and edit the February 1 diary.  If you will copy over the entire top section (not the extended part, just the top) to the latest Indonesia thread, it will add the table with Okieman's latest maps (dated Jan 26th, I think).  Then FloridaGirl can copy it to her next diary.  The only thing that needs to be changed is the reference to the prior thread which will come after the "blockquote" codes.

FloridaGirl, I hope your final class projects are going well.  Thanks again for taking on this additional work.

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by: Michelle in OK @ Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 05:43:21 AM UTC

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Thx Michelle in OK

I have already copied the pics etc for FloridaGirl - it is just the Table now and I wanted her to be "ready" first ;-)

Cheers and thanks and I hope is all going well for you.

Eat pudding first - who know's what might happen next! - Anon

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by: AnnieB @ Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 06:31:51 AM UTC

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AnnieB, about the pics...

Only the pics that were in the 2nd section of the diary were copied over.  They were the earlier pics which were posted only to give a picture of the change over time.

The latest pictures in the top section were not brought over.  They should also show up on the front page (if it is done like the Feb 1 diary.)

Thanks for all of the effort.  I really appreciate you all stepping up to do this.

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by: Michelle in OK @ Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 13:15:18 PM UTC

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