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Ukraine and Eastern Europe

by: magdelaine

Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 15:45:44 PM EST


In the last 20 days, there have been more than 300 reported deaths in the Ukraine.  At least 90 have been studied as cases of hemorrhagic pneumonia, in which the lungs are destroyed, full of blood, appear back in color, and are completely destroyed. These facts are extremely unusual in the 2009 H1N1 pandemic thus far. Because of this, I feel this phenomenon, which is quickly spreading to nearby countries cannot be explained by the Ukraine health system, by AIDS, by the weather, living conditions, or anything else other than the fact that the virus has changed in a way that makes it more deadly. I believe this has been validated by the sequences released by the WHO to date as well as by the fact that five sequences have yet to be released.

However, I do not have the time to maintain this diary by myself. I find that there is an odd lack of curiosity about what is happening in the Ukriane, and why, here at Fluwiki. So, if as a visitor to Fluwiki you want to follow what this story, I recommend the following resources:

In any case, this will all be apparent in the coming weeks. Good luck everyone.

Ukraine Cases and Deaths
Date Cases Deaths
11/15/09 1,364,939299
11/11/09 1,192,481213
11/08/09969,247 155
11/07/09 936,804 144
11/06/09 871,037 134
11/05/09 762,835 109
11/04/09 478,456 81
11/03/09 255,516 71
11/02/09 255,504 67
11/01/09 191,431 60

News Resources

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IS H1N1 Mutating?????

by: Walrus

Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 14:47:11 PM EST

I'm starting to wonder if H1N1 mutations are appearing right now.

Clawdia said in the news thread:

That's what I keep wondering, Mary.

There's a post over at PFI today about a CDC call (restricted info, apparently) that made reference to the virus having mutated away from the vax.
by: Clawdia @ Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 11:05:20 AM EST

I followed that up and discussion is in PFI's Rumours V thread.

Now Plan For Pandemic's Hope4us has found an unrelated article about cases in Pune, India which refers to 35 deaths from an untyped ILI at the Sassoon Hospital that did not react to the common or garden H1N1 test.

This article contained the statement:

On October 28, doctors at Sassoon shared the data on these deaths with the Center for Disease Control, Atlanta, USA, and virologists across the world in a videoconference.


I wonder if the PFI rumour and this event are connected??

I also note that the Ukrainian samples tested in London showed H1N1 in half of them,....what was in the other half?

I also note a Doctors claim to have caught H1N1 twice.

Is there a pattern here?

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H1N1(Swine Flu): Ukraine Update; Panic in Iraq Schools

by: ReginaPhelps

Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 14:35:01 PM EST


A total of 38 fatalities associated with severe manifestations of ARI have been registered. Preliminary epidemiological data analysis indicates that severe cases and deaths primarily occur among previously healthy young adults aged 20 - 50 years. Fatal and severe cases are reported to have sought medical attention 5 to 7 days after onset of symptoms.

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H1N1(Swine Flu): Disturbing news from Ukraine, Schools Closed, Travel Restricted

by: ReginaPhelps

Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 09:49:10 AM EST


Rather disturbing information starting coming out of the Ukraine on Friday regarding H1N1.  The government has shut schools, banned large public gatherings and imposed travel restrictions for three weeks - some of the most drastic measures taken across the globe to contain H1N1- after confirming that a sudden and swift outbreak has claimed at least 50 lives and placed over 2000 in the hospital. Stories are confusing as to the number of cases, hospitalizations and deaths. News reports range wildly from 11 deaths to 100.  

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Lookout Posts - Eastern Europe and Baltic Region

by: DemFromCT

Wed Dec 13, 2006 at 17:59:11 PM EST

This is the Lookout Post for Eastern Europe and Baltic Region which includes the following countries:

Bulgaria, Romania, Moldova, Ukraine, Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Kazakhstan, Russian Federation

An international news source can be found here for review.

Old diary is here

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