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      <title>Tamiflu UK - Part 4: Efficacy and Resistance</title>
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      <description>This is the 4th and final part of the current series on proposed use of tamiflu in a pandemic in the UK. &amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt; Previous diaries have covered &lt;a href="http://www.newfluwiki2.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1119"&gt;current plans&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.newfluwiki2.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1121"&gt;distribution&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.newfluwiki2.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1125"&gt;equity, insufficient stockpile&lt;/a&gt;, and related issues.&amp;nbsp; I now move on to two central questions.&amp;nbsp; &#xD;&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;How effective is tamiflu for reduction of mortality should the current H5N1 virus cause a pandemic?&amp;nbsp; &#xD;&lt;p&gt;&lt;li&gt; What would be the effect of widespread use, in the order of tens of millions of doses, on the evolution of the virus, specifically emergence of resistant strains?&amp;nbsp; &lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&#xD;&lt;p&gt;Two recently published papers give some crucial and unfortunately worrying answers to these questions, further throwing into doubt the effectiveness of mass tamiflu usage in mitigating the effects of a pandemic.&#xD;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Efficacy:&lt;/b&gt;&#xD;&lt;p&gt;Tamiflu belongs to the group of drugs called neuraminidase (NA) inhibitors. &#xD;&lt;p&gt;First some background science: all influenza viruses, in order to cause disease, have to be able to enter the host's cells.&amp;nbsp; This is facilitated by the binding of the virus to receptors on the cell surface by the HA (haemagglutinin) molecule.&amp;nbsp; The virus then undergoes replication inside the cell.&amp;nbsp; In the case of H5N1, for reasons that are not clear, this replication is hundreds often thousands of times more efficient than the regular seasonal flu viruses.&amp;nbsp; In order for these newly generated virus particles to spread to other cells, they have to first leave the original cell.&amp;nbsp; This again involves the receptors, but this time, the release of the virus from binding to the receptors is the work of the NA molecule.&#xD;&lt;p&gt;NA inhibitors work by blocking this release.&amp;nbsp; What this means is that essentially, &lt;b&gt;tamiflu does not start blocking the virus until it has already gone through at least one round of replication&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;nbsp; &lt;blockquote&gt;ie No matter how early you take the drug, you are always going to be behind the curve&lt;/blockquote&gt; which is particularly problematic since one reason why H5N1 is so lethal is its high replication rate.&#xD;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&amp;cmd=Retrieve&amp;dopt=AbstractPlus&amp;list_uids=17296744&amp;query_hl=4&amp;itool=pubmed_docsum"&gt;Animal studies with H5N1&lt;/a&gt; suggest that tamiflu is effective if given early enough, in high enough doses, and for longer than the normal duration of treatment.&amp;nbsp; As a result of the very high fatality even in treated cases, several governments in Asia with current human cases have started using double the standard dose for H5N1 patients, in an effort to improve survival.&amp;nbsp; The longer period of virus replication (see below) also means a longer course of treatment may be needed.&amp;nbsp; Hence the use of standard dose, 75mg twice daily for 5 days only, as proposed by the government may carry a high risk of treatment failures.&amp;nbsp; &#xD;&lt;p&gt;A recent authoritative review &lt;a href="http://cmr.asm.org/cgi/content/abstract/20/2/243"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Avian Influenza Virus (H5N1): a Threat to Human Health&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; by Malik Peiris, de Jong, and Yi Guan, states&#xD;&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The limited clinical experience does not suggest a substantial impact of antiviral treatment on the mortality of human H5N1 influenza virus in the field setting. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&#xD;&lt;p&gt;The reasons given are:&#xD;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Late presentation of patients for treatment (median 4 days)&#xD;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;Part of the disease process is caused by host immune dysfunction which cannot be mitigated by antivirals.&#xD;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;Standard seasonal flu doses not sufficient for H5 cases&#xD;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;Oral administration means absorption is compromised in patients with diarrhea (&gt;70%)&lt;/ol&gt;&#xD;&lt;p&gt;Having said that, there are still encouraging results, eg from &lt;a href="http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abstract/353/25/2667"&gt;de Jong, 2005&lt;/a&gt;, where &#xD;&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;even when oseltamivir treatment is started later in the course of infection, viral clearance can occur in some patients, and this is associated with a favorable clinical outcome (41). Thus, &lt;b&gt;in contrast to human influenza virus, where treatment after the first 48 h provides little clinical benefit, there may be a wider therapeutic window&lt;/b&gt; of clinical benefit in H5N1 disease (and also in a pandemic situation).&lt;/blockquote&gt;&#xD;&lt;p&gt;Which makes the UK government's proposal to deny antivirals to those who have been sick for 48 hours even more unjustifiable, quite apart from the &lt;a href="http://www.newfluwiki2.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1119"&gt;implementation problems &lt;/a&gt;discussed before.&#xD;&lt;p&gt;Overall, it would seem that &lt;b&gt;tamiflu is likely to be somewhat effective, if taken early enough&lt;/b&gt;, but there are serious doubts that current dosages are sufficient to provide enough benefit to reduce mortality in a pandemic. Given a fixed stockpile, doubling the dose would halve the number we can treat, and, of course, giving a longer course would reduce that even further. &#xD;&lt;p&gt;This is the current status, ie before millions and millions of doses are used all over the world, as is likely to happen in a pandemic.&#xD;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Emergence of resistance:&lt;/b&gt;&#xD;&lt;p&gt;Antiviral drugs, like antibiotics, work only if the virus that you are targeting is still sensitive to the drug.&amp;nbsp; In general, resistance is more likely to arise with increased usage and with partially treated infections, ie doses that are either too low or given for too short a time, or both.&amp;nbsp; Although influenza viruses generally have a lower rate of resistance to NA inhibitors when compared to the other major group of influenza drugs, the adamantanes, there are signs that widespread use in seasonal flu eg in Japan, can cause substantial incidence of resistant strains to arise especially in children (up to 18% in one study). Since current proposal for antiviral use in a pandemic is still based on the seasonal flu dose (see above), &lt;i&gt;such widespread use of suboptimal dosing would at least in theory substantially increase the risk of emergence of resistant strains.&lt;/i&gt;&#xD;&lt;p&gt;Cases of H5N1 infections with tamiflu-resistant strains have been reported.&amp;nbsp; The first one was in &lt;a href="http://www.newfluwiki2.com/showComment.do?commentId=18537"&gt;a Vietnamese girl &lt;/a&gt;who was on the prophylactic dose, and she subsequently recovered when given the standard dose, so it was not clear that there was actual clinical resistance. More disturbing are later cases reported by de Jong, when resistant strains were found in 2 out of 7 patients (a very high incidence, albeit in a very small sample) undergoing treatment, when falling viral titre rose again with the emergence of the resistant strain, and were associated with treatment failure and death.(see chart)&amp;nbsp; &#xD;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fluwiki.info/uploads/Science/tamifluresistance.jpg"&gt;Concern was also raised when earlier this year &lt;a href="http://www.newfluwiki2.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=729"&gt;2 patients in a family cluster in Egypt&lt;/a&gt; who died also had resistant strains isolated, raising the possibility of either occurrence in the wild or h2h transmission of the resistant strain.&#xD;&lt;p&gt;Malik's paper raises a very important point on antiviral resistance.&amp;nbsp; Commenting on the much higher incidence of resistance in children, the suggestion is that &lt;b&gt;in primary influenza infections&lt;/b&gt; ie in those with no prior immunity, such as young children for seasonal flu and all patients with H5N1 infections, the mechanisms are different from our normal experience of seasonal flu in adults, and &lt;b&gt;the rate of virus replication and mutations are extremely high, giving rise to higher chance of resistance emerging.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp; If this reasoning is correct, then we may expect far higher incidence of drug resistance in a H5N1 pandemic compared to seasonal flu &lt;blockquote&gt;ie the efficacy of tamiflu in seasonal flu infections cannot be extrapolated to a pandemic with H5N1 or indeed any other completely novel virus for which the population have zero immunity!&lt;/blockquote&gt;&#xD;&lt;p&gt;So far, the mutations seen with the resistant strains appear to be associated with moderate&amp;nbsp; `fitness cost', ie the selection of the resistant virus is at the expense of a reduction in transmissibility.&amp;nbsp; However, we know that, like antibiotics, widespread use of antivirals does encourage the emergence of resistance.&amp;nbsp; Tamiflu, despite being so famous by now, is still not very widely used (except in Japan), so the full implications of extremely widespread use eg in the order of tens or hundreds or million doses worldwide in a pandemic, are not clear. &#xD;&lt;p&gt;A recent paper in PLOS Medicine by Lipsitch et al &lt;a href="http://medicine.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&amp;doi=10.1371/journal.pmed.0040015"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;Antiviral Resistance and the Control of Pandemic Influenza&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; uses mathematical modeling to attempt to find some answers to this and related questions.&amp;nbsp; This was very elegantly explained in a &lt;a href="http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasure/2007/03/modeling_antiviral_resistance.php"&gt;16-part series by revere&lt;/a&gt; ;-).&amp;nbsp; Here I will only draw upon some of their conclusions and discuss their implications for pandemic policy.&#xD;&lt;p&gt;Even though, so far, the resistant viruses isolated appear to have high to moderate fitness costs, in principle, &lt;i&gt;such fitness trade-off must be seen as a continuum&lt;/i&gt;, ie at the 2 ends of the range, there would be those viruses with such high fitness-costs that they do not survive at all (and hence we will not know anything about them!), as well as, at the other end of the range, those with low fitness-costs.&amp;nbsp; Both these would be rare, compared to the more commonly seen ones with moderate fitness-costs, but since the incidence of resistance emergence is proportionate to the number of treatment courses used, at very high rates of use, &lt;b&gt;there would be a small but significant chance of emergence of a resistant strain that can transmit &lt;/b&gt;in a comparable way to the original sensitive virus.&#xD;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The effects of widespread antiviral use&lt;/b&gt; would include:&#xD;&lt;p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Emergence of resistant strain&#xD;&lt;p&gt;&lt;li&gt;Blocked or slowed transmission of wild type, favoring selection for transmission of the resistant virus.&#xD;&lt;p&gt;&lt;li&gt;Reduction in AR causes slower rate of build-up of herd immunity before resistant strain appears, resulting in a higher proportion of cases due to the resistant strain.&lt;/ol&gt;&#xD;&lt;p&gt;It's important to remember, though, that the overall epidemic size with antiviral use is still generally smaller than without.&amp;nbsp; However, and this gets really interesting, the researchers found that this effect ie increasing antiviral use reducing epidemic size, is only true at the lower end of usage, and that, beyond a certain point, the advantages are reversed, and the overall AR rises again.&amp;nbsp; This is because at very high rates of use, the build-up of immunity due to infection is much slower, but the blockage of transmission of the sensitive strain is ongoing, so that more people are susceptible to and become infected by any resistant strain that can be transmitted h2h.&amp;nbsp; Since these infections cannot be treated by tamiflu, these patients will transmit the virus to others, resulting in higher attack rates again, only this time the virus would be resistant to treatment!&#xD;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;In summary&lt;/b&gt;, even though animal studies suggest that tamiflu may be effective in reducing mortality in H5N1 infections if given early enough, in high enough doses, and for long enough durations, limited clinical experiences have so far been unable to reproduce such success in humans.&amp;nbsp; If in future it is found that efficacy is improved with higher doses and longer duration of treatment, then a fixed 25% stockpile would mean being able to treat a substantially smaller proportion of patients, or treating at suboptimal doses with the increased risk of drug resistance emerging.&amp;nbsp; In addition, the effects of tens of millions of doses being used in UK alone over a short period of time are entirely unknown, although modeling would suggest at least a small but significant risk of resistant strains arising and spreading as part of the epidemic.&#xD;&lt;p&gt;As part of an overall pandemic mitigation plan, antivirals are indeed indispensable.&amp;nbsp; However, in the absence of other additional effective mitigation strategies, the overall outcome in terms of mortality and epidemic size are at best uncertain.&amp;nbsp; Should drug resistant viruses appear and cause even a small number of fatal cases, the panic and social instability that can arise in a society &lt;i&gt;conditioned to the idea that we have enough antivirals stockpiled to treat all those who get sick &lt;/i&gt;cannot be underestimated.&amp;nbsp; &#xD;&lt;p&gt;Even though the addition of other antiviral drug stockpiles may improve the prospects somewhat, and should be undertaken in any case, it would be far more prudent to create and strengthen other non-pharmaceutical interventions in addition to drug treatment.&amp;nbsp; Whether or not antivirals work, the ability to use effective social distancing measures (in a co-ordinated manner under the guidance of government) to reduce the impact of a pandemic would reduce the sense of helplessness that would otherwise pervade society.&amp;nbsp; &lt;blockquote&gt;In a mass casualty possibly mass fatality situation lasing many weeks and months, &lt;b&gt;self-sufficiency, community resilience, trust, and continuing dialogue&lt;/b&gt; may mean the difference between societies that succeed or fail to emerge intact.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;</description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:49:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>N294S - evidence of tamiflu-resistant H5N1 in Egypt?</title>
      <link>http://www.newfluwiki2.com/diary/729/</link>
      <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What standard of science is the WHO practicing?&amp;nbsp; And what message is that sending out to flu skeptics?&amp;nbsp; And all of us, of course...&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Tamiflu (Oseltamivir) is currently the antiviral of choice for the treatment of human H5N1 infections.&amp;nbsp; It is also stockpiled by many countries in preparation for a possible pandemic from the virus, whether for treatment, containment, protection of essential personnel, or prophylaxis in contacts.&amp;nbsp; Hence, any emergence of a tamiflu-resistant strain is a development that, rightly, evokes significant concern and requires the closest scrutiny and investigation.&lt;p&gt;
Events of the past few days have caused me to be concerned not just about the virus or whether it is tamiflu-resistant, but about whether WHO as an institution, its officers, and main-stream media are doing their jobs properly with regards to the responsible dissemination of credible information based on sound scientific methods and analysis.&lt;p&gt;
First of all, a little background science.&amp;nbsp; To demonstrate that a particular virus has a particular &lt;i&gt;mutation&lt;/i&gt;, scientists have to determine the &lt;b&gt;genetic sequence&lt;/b&gt; of the virus.&amp;nbsp; This however, does not tell us whether the virus is &lt;i&gt;resistant&lt;/i&gt; to a drug.&amp;nbsp; To determine that, one needs to do either a &lt;b&gt;NA enzyme inhibition assay&lt;/b&gt;, or &lt;b&gt;animal experiments&lt;/b&gt;, as described here &lt;a href="http://www.newfluwiki2.com/showComment.do?commentId=19440"&gt;http://www.newfluwik...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Having said that, if previous studies have consistently shown, in a particular virus genome, a consistent and statistically significant correlation between a mutation and a specific drug resistance, then one need not do sensitivity assays in each patient, and assume the sample was resistant if the mutation is present. In addition, demonstration of resistance in the laboratory does not necessarily imply that the virus is drug resistant in actual clinical infections.&amp;nbsp; You also need examination of clinical information to determine that.&lt;p&gt;
Let's look at the current case in point, starting with &lt;a href="http://www.who.int/csr/don/2007_01_18/en/index.html"&gt;&lt;i&gt;the official WHO update released on January 18th&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; It states, &lt;blockquote&gt;Viruses with a genetic mutation, linked in laboratory testing to moderately reduced susceptibility to oseltamivir, have been discovered in two persons previously reported&amp;nbsp; with H5N1 infections in Egypt&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
At first sight, most people would assume that "&lt;i&gt;linked in laboratory testing to moderately reduced susceptibility to oseltamivir&lt;/i&gt;" implies &lt;b&gt;laboratory testing has indeed been done on these two specific samples&lt;/b&gt;, and these have shown moderately reduced susceptibility.&amp;nbsp; Indeed, the WHO press release goes on to say that &lt;blockquote&gt; &lt;b&gt;Confirmatory testing&lt;/b&gt; and genetic sequencing was done at NAMRU-3 and at two WHO Collaborating Centres located in Atlanta, USA and London, UK.&lt;/blockquote&gt; and &lt;blockquote&gt; Current laboratory testing suggests that the level of reduced susceptibility is moderate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
However, note that in none of these statements was it made explicit that such tamiflu sensitivity tests had indeed been done on samples from the Egyptian patients.&amp;nbsp; Why is that important?&lt;p&gt;
Let's examine the 'evidence' for tamiflu-resistance in the particular mutation discovered in these 2 patients - N294S.&amp;nbsp; &lt;p&gt;
This mutation was described in a Vietnamese girl in 2005, (details here &lt;a href="http://www.newfluwiki2.com/showComment.do?commentId=18537"&gt;http://www.newfluwik...&lt;/a&gt;) who made a full recovery after the initial low (prophylactic) dose was increased to the dose recommended currently for seasonal flu.&lt;p&gt;
However, the clinical significance of this mutation is uncertain, given that &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;the girl's symptoms never got worse than 'fever and severe cough', they showed clinical response to the normal dose of tamiflu, and she made an uneventful recovery&lt;li&gt;the change in susceptibility of N294S clones (measured by IC50) was very small, indeed close to marginal (7.1 - 12.5 nM) compared to normal range (0.1 - 10nM)&lt;li&gt;there were additional clones of virus with the H274Y mutation, which showed a far higher degree of resistance (IC50 range 763 - 1088 nM), which could have accounted for (assuming it was significant) the initial failure to respond to the prophylactic dose&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;
So, that's one case.&amp;nbsp; (ie n=1) &lt;p&gt;
In addition, the WHO also said &lt;blockquote&gt;This mutation has previously been identified in Viet Nam in one case in 2005. Moreover, these mutations are not associated with any known change in the transmissibility of the virus between humans.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
What it did NOT say, however, was that transmission studies based on this particular mutation has or has not ever been done.&amp;nbsp; I have done a series of searches, and the only NA inhibitor resistance transmission studies were based on several other mutations and in different NA subtypes, H274Y in N1 (transmissible), E119V and R292K in N2 (not transmissible). &lt;p&gt;
The WHO statement is technically accurate in that N294S is not associated with any known change in transmissibility, &lt;b&gt;but we don't know whether such lack of association is because no one ever did any research on it!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Adding to the confusion, let's look at some MSM headlines.&amp;nbsp; If you have stayed with this diary so far, you will now be able to observe the difference in nuance and meaning.&lt;p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/18/world/africa/18flu.html?_r=2&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin"&gt;NY Times&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;br&gt;
New Strain of Bird Flu Found in Egypt Is Resistant to Antiviral Drug&lt;p&gt;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-01-18-bird-flu-mutations_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA"&gt;USA Today&lt;a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;br&gt;
Bird flu mutations in Egypt suggest antiviral resistance &lt;p&gt;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L18932531.htm"&gt;Reuters&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Moderately Tamiflu-resistant bird flu in Egypt--WHO&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
(Here's a test: Which of these 3 headlines would you say describes the situation most accurately?)&lt;p&gt;
And the words of some experts:&lt;p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;"What we've confirmed is that H5N1 viruses isolated from two patients in recent cases in Egypt both showed this so-called 294S change," &lt;a href="http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L18932531.htm"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Keiji Fukuda&lt;/a&gt;, coordinator for the WHO's global influenza programme&lt;/i&gt;, told Reuters.&amp;nbsp; "But based on what we see from laboratory tests, we expect any reduction in sensitivity or increase in resistance is going to be on the moderate side,"&lt;p&gt;
"What the resistance tests look for are markers associated with antiviral resistance," though finding the markers did not necessarily mean Tamiflu would not work, said &lt;a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-01-18-bird-flu-mutations_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Dr. Angus Nicoll&lt;/a&gt;, flu director at the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;p&gt;
The development "is not a big surprise, but it certainly is disheartening," said &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/18/world/africa/18flu.html?_r=2&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Dr. Anne Moscona&lt;/a&gt;, an expert on flu treatment at Weill Cornell Medical College&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;p&gt;
"Based on the information we have, we can't yet rule out human-to-human transmission," said &lt;a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-01-18-bird-flu-mutations_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Dr. Fred Hayden&lt;/a&gt;, a WHO bird flu and anti-virals expert&lt;/i&gt;. "We need to better understand the dynamics of this outbreak."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=purple&gt;But the grand prize should go to the WHO spokesman himself&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;"Given the information we have, we don't see any broad public health implications,"&lt;/b&gt; said &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/18/world/africa/18flu.html?_r=2&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Dick Thompson&lt;/a&gt;, a spokesman for the organization&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
despite the fact that:&lt;p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mr. Thompson was unsure which Egyptian cluster of flu infections the patients were part of.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;So What do we know?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;2 people died&lt;br&gt;
&lt;li&gt;they were both given tamiflu&lt;br&gt;
&lt;li&gt;they found the N294S mutation in samples from both, 2 days after starting tamiflu&lt;br&gt;
&lt;li&gt;there was a third confirmed case in the cluster who also died&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;What do we not know?&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp; Here are some but by no means all the questions that remain unanswered about this business.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;did they do any tamiflu sensitivity assays on the samples?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;li&gt;has there been other reports of N294S apart from the single case in Vietnam?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;li&gt;if yes, did the clinical picture and/or laboratory assays suggest tamiflu resistance?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;li&gt;is this h2h?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;li&gt;have they taken any samples from birds in the area?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;li&gt;did any of these and other avian sequences show N294S?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;li&gt;did they sequence the virus from the third patient?&amp;nbsp; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;li&gt;If yes, did that sequence contain the N294S OR NOT?&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;&lt;font color=purple&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;As in the case of transmission studies above, despite the report from NY Times, (probably a la Thompson?) that&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; "The resistant strain did not spread to anyone else, including a third family member who also had avian flu." &lt;/i&gt;we cannot assume this is accurate until the WHO confirms whether a sequence analysis has been done and what it shows.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;li&gt;could this be sampling/laboratory/specimen labelling error?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;li&gt;did either one or both patients take any medication prior to hospitalization?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;li&gt;if yes, is someone tracing the medication history to find out whether they might have taken tamiflu prior to hospitalization?&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Need I say more about the importance of good science and clear accurate communications?&amp;nbsp; Including what we DON'T know?&lt;p&gt;
Can the WHO start treating the citizens of the world as grown-ups please?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 04:37:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>SusanC</author>
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